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12/03/10, 07:35 PM
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Guard your brass
since there are so many scrap pickers on HT including myself I thought I'd share some of the latest brash brass jacking that is going on in my area. It's being attributed to the poor economy but I feel it's just addicts taking advantage of good metal prices.
theives stole brass railings ect off of the county building on Main Street in downtown Rochester.
Unfortunetly copper & brass urns were stolen from a Buffalo area cemetery.
~~ pelenaka ~~
Last edited by Pelenaka; 12/03/10 at 07:38 PM.
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12/03/10, 08:14 PM
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The same thing was happening here last year. Lord forbid you build a new building and don't have someone there 24/7 as all the wiring will be gone in no time.
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12/03/10, 09:10 PM
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You made me remember the pix I saw recently of a small mcmansion with a copper roof . . . . . .wow . .$$$
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12/03/10, 10:51 PM
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Hmmm, no wonder the target range has been so clean recently...
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12/04/10, 01:42 AM
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Thieves stole about 400 brass vases from a cemetery in Faulkner county in AR a couple of month ago. They cost $300 but with the cost of scrap they could be sold for about $80 a peace. They caught them and are going to trial sometime in the next year.
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12/04/10, 06:29 AM
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DH wanted a copper roof and I told him aside from price it'll get stolen!!! And aside from white/metal reflects better, that is why I didn't get a copper colored metal one as DH w'd've liked as an alternative. Dump thieves might steal our metal roof thinking it's copper.
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12/04/10, 07:09 AM
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just include your metal roof, hand rail etc in your electric fence circuit. problem solved. 
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12/04/10, 11:58 AM
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These have to be some dumb thieves. Copper and brass aren't GOLD fer cryin' out loud. Scrap copper is about $2.20 a pound; brass is $1.40. That's a lot of work to go to for not much money. I read about a new house that was being built, and thieves broke in and tore all of the wiring out of the walls. They got about $200 in copper, and did $5000 damage to the drywall. It also set the build back a couple weeks, which cost the homeowners more in interest and rental while they waited.
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12/04/10, 01:00 PM
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In Mass. several years ago , two state workers loaded up 91,260 lbs worth of decorative bridge railings (from the historic longfellow bridge ) worth $ 700,000 with a state bob cat and delivered it in a state dump truck to a scrap metal dealer ( who melted it down ) for a total of $ 12,000 profit .
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12/04/10, 09:47 PM
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Hang some of these fine folks by the wire they stole, off the overpasses going into towns, and maybe this problem would evaporate. If it didn't, keep adding more examples. [meth present in system, meet the bridge]
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12/04/10, 10:00 PM
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it amazes me, that every couple of months there is a story in the newspaper here that someone got killed stealing LIVE power lines....
When I lived in the city, we could not keep rain gutters on the house and garage as the pickers would come and take whatever was in reach over the fence!
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12/04/10, 10:33 PM
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I was just reading about problems in England. All the old Church of England buildings have lead roofs and thieves are stealing the roofing.
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12/04/10, 10:51 PM
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Well we must also make the scrap buyers accountable. If they see items coming in that look not to be regular scrap like the vases. Reminds me of a news story from Chicago last January where a guy was steeling the aluminum bleachers from a football field to scrap. Never got caught but managed to take them all in the night in the winter.
I took in a trailer load of mixes steel and cast iron that was in my garage yesterday for $.07 a pound (I needed to clean up some extra room) and I made them reweigh and check their math. The load listed at just over 1700 pounds with a 688 weight on the container and they tried to only give me 900 pounds. The did not like that I asked them to rewiegh it and check their math but that is cheating me out of the value.
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12/05/10, 12:15 AM
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Around here large lots of alumuinum irrigation pipe or copper wireing,some yards require signing and giving a thumb print.
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12/05/10, 01:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NickieL
it amazes me, that every couple of months there is a story in the newspaper here that someone got killed stealing LIVE power lines....
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Happens here all the time
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12/05/10, 10:08 AM
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Around here the recyclers will not take anything cemetary related; which eliminates the desire to steal from the cemetary.
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12/05/10, 11:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawn
Well we must also make the scrap buyers accountable. If they see items coming in that look not to be regular scrap like the vases. Reminds me of a news story from Chicago last January where a guy was steeling the aluminum bleachers from a football field to scrap. Never got caught but managed to take them all in the night in the winter.
I took in a trailer load of mixes steel and cast iron that was in my garage yesterday for $.07 a pound (I needed to clean up some extra room) and I made them reweigh and check their math. The load listed at just over 1700 pounds with a 688 weight on the container and they tried to only give me 900 pounds. The did not like that I asked them to rewiegh it and check their math but that is cheating me out of the value.
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That sounds just like the yard closest to Me , that I only used Once.
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12/05/10, 09:51 PM
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One thing the Cemetary copper bandits haven't figured out yet.........Coffins! A lot of them are made of copper and aluminum.
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12/05/10, 10:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldcountryboy
One thing the Cemetary copper bandits haven't figured out yet.........Coffins! A lot of them are made of copper and aluminum.
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Shhhhhhhh!
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12/06/10, 11:21 AM
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Yesterday on the news it was mentioned that the stolen metals were sold to a 2nd party who runs a scraping biz part time ( again I pictured an HTer with an old pick up truck making the rounds) then he attempted to sell to the scrap yard. The investigation continues as they say. There is a special place in purgatory for grave robbers.
I'm sure now that the word is out so independent scrappers that won't happen as often but the damage is already done. To replace not only costs materials but a skilled craftsman.
Last year while we were at an antique show hubby was asked if he could do repairs & replacements on cast iron fences. The conversation started because he was looking @ blacksmithing equipment. He's got a small forage that he built & is self teaching himself.
The woman who is a member of a local historic cemetery association, said that are miles of elaborate decorative fencing that need work. Apparently the ass. had contacted a fella but he was booked steady for two years. Plus it was cost prohibited due to his lodging & travel expenses.
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