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"The Future of Food" movie
I'm only about 20 min into watching this movie on Netflix instant play, but wondered if anyone here has seen it...?
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11/25/10, 11:39 PM
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I just watched Feed, inc. on there Ill watch that one next
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11/26/10, 12:21 AM
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I just watched Feed, inc. on there Ill watch that one next
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King Corn is another, along the same line.
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11/26/10, 01:10 AM
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Those videos are so disappointing to many of us.
They are ill informed, and prey upon and use scare tactics against people.
The world is not as they portray it.
Yes, there are many issues in this world, and many opinions, and many questions about all sorts of things.
It's just so disappointing to see such junk being paraded around as if they were worth anything.
All I have to say on this, don't want to turn into another 100 post pointless argument that goes no where.
Just makes me sad that on a day of thanksgiving, such trash is being promoted. I shouldn't have come here this evening.
--->Paul
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11/26/10, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rambler
Those videos are so disappointing to many of us.
They are ill informed, and prey upon and use scare tactics against people.
The world is not as they portray it.
Yes, there are many issues in this world, and many opinions, and many questions about all sorts of things.
It's just so disappointing to see such junk being paraded around as if they were worth anything.
All I have to say on this, don't want to turn into another 100 post pointless argument that goes no where.
Just makes me sad that on a day of thanksgiving, such trash is being promoted. I shouldn't have come here this evening.
--->Paul
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Hmmmm.... I just asked if anyone had seen the movie. I am interested in entering the horticulture field, so this interests me. I do worry about people messing with Mother Nature, more interested in the Greater Good, than Big Bucks. Not sure what you're going on about.
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11/26/10, 01:36 AM
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Just finished the movie. Seemed to be anti- big corporation ,genetically modified foods,chemicals, big corporations trying to patent & own all the seeds on earth,etc. And Pro small farmers,organic,sustainable agriculture. The rights of private citizens to grow what mother nature provides to us, & to know what is being put into our food supply. Sounds good to me! 
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11/26/10, 02:16 AM
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The problem is that it faults any advances in technology which must labor the soil to continue to double Earth's needs about every 20 years. The dimensions of the Earth are finite but being asked to support millions more annually than what was intended. If a farmer has X number of acres which can feed X number of livestock, 2X may survive but suffer. 3X is just under starvation. 4X does not happen. Amazing what we've accomplished to avoid 4X among the humans.
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11/26/10, 02:25 AM
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I'll have to add it to my list to watch.
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11/26/10, 06:31 AM
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It can be seen from their website for free. I just watched it. I live in the middle of GM fields of corn and soybeans every summer. I think the movie is very accurate. It is a movie that should be watched before critisized.
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11/26/10, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Paquebot
The problem is that it faults any advances in technology which must labor the soil to continue to double Earth's needs about every 20 years. The dimensions of the Earth are finite but being asked to support millions more annually than what was intended. If a farmer has X number of acres which can feed X number of livestock, 2X may survive but suffer. 3X is just under starvation. 4X does not happen. Amazing what we've accomplished to avoid 4X among the humans.
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This is a great point. But is anyone working on increasing the efficiency of the food supply with research and funds into more than GMO's? What else are they doing? Are the working on reclaiming desert lands? Or working on growing crops more appropriate for feeding large bodies of people than just corn and soy? From what I read and hear, our food supply is not increasing in variety as much as we are spending for it. They seem to be concentrating on the two crops (or maybe those are just the ones we hear about? ) I fear that they are more worried about feeding the world than feed our own people in good healthy ways that the rest of the world could then emulate. I want to hear something else of what they are doing besides GMOs. Are there other places in the world that do a better job of feeding their people with a different system than we have? Is there anywhere that is providing large portions of the food for their citizens with small holdings ? I would love to see success in this area ALSO. We will never be rid of big AG - it has it's place....but surely more could be done on a local level to feed the people. I refuse to buy Washington apples. Why should I pay to have them shipped this direction when MI produces great apples?
The corn and soy are being crammed down people throats literally. I am afraid is it not done in the best interest of the people but in interests of lining the pockets of the few.
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11/26/10, 10:12 AM
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Well.....
Yes, we've had this heated discussion before with all the pros and cons expressed.
But here may be something you might wish to think about and discuss--"Protato"
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/article/...in-potato.html
What do you think???
geo
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11/26/10, 11:26 AM
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keep it simple and honest
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And, of course, we need not mention the un-PC PC phrase....Population Control!
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11/26/10, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by geo in mi
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If it's found to be safe for human consumption, I think that's marvelous!
I just did some calculations that suggest the world's population will triple in my lifetime. It's great that some people attempt to be self-sufficient, but that simply isn't going to work for everyone! Wouldn't it be great if human ingenuity can save us from famine?
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11/26/10, 11:58 AM
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Geo...I was hoping someone was doing something with chocolate!!!
Personally, I don't mind if they switch genes around in foods - it's when they start adding at old insecticide gene and round-up resistant one that I get worried. And when they starting thinking we all need to be eating it.....They can do what they want with crops - as long as I am free to grow what I want to eat and perpare it they way I want.
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Originally Posted by Callieslamb
This is a great point. But is anyone working on increasing the efficiency of the food supply with research and funds into more than GMO's? What else are they doing? Are the working on reclaiming desert lands? Or working on growing crops more appropriate for feeding large bodies of people than just corn and soy? From what I read and hear, our food supply is not increasing in variety as much as we are spending for it. They seem to be concentrating on the two crops (or maybe those are just the ones we hear about? ) I fear that they are more worried about feeding the world than feed our own people in good healthy ways that the rest of the world could then emulate. I want to hear something else of what they are doing besides GMOs. Are there other places in the world that do a better job of feeding their people with a different system than we have? Is there anywhere that is providing large portions of the food for their citizens with small holdings ? I would love to see success in this area ALSO. We will never be rid of big AG - it has it's place....but surely more could be done on a local level to feed the people. I refuse to buy Washington apples. Why should I pay to have them shipped this direction when MI produces great apples?
The corn and soy are being crammed down people throats literally. I am afraid is it not done in the best interest of the people but in interests of lining the pockets of the few.
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We think alike. I've always been cautious of an "all or nothing" approach and tend to have a knee jerk reaction when big Ag or someone pro big Ag comes along and says there isn't another way to approach the feeding of the masses. Of course there is.....we just haven't discovered it yet. Or have we.
I know from personal experience a small garden will produce enough to feed my family and several relatives or neighbors. My steer makes enough beef for my family and a couple other families. A few hens provide eggs and meat. Yes, this is old fashioned and may not be a practical approach, but we know it works. Instead of all or nothing, perhaps a blending of the two may be a launching point towards a healthy sustainable alternative to what we have in place now. JMHO
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11/26/10, 01:35 PM
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I'm all for research, science & new technology, but the thought of what these Frankenfoods may do to humans somewhere down the line scares me. Before discovering HT, I never gave a thought to exactly where my food comes from, what was in it, etc. Now, I buy only free range eggs from local farmers, try to grow most of the veggies we consume, or do the research & make sure I know who is growing it,where it comes from,etc., as much as I can. The high rates of cancer really makes me wonder if all this "messing w/ nature", pollution,etc is the major cause. When I was a kid I don't remember anyone having cancer (nor Autism,for that matter) that we know, now it seems it affects at least one person in every family that I know! Scary.
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11/26/10, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Callieslamb
Geo...I was hoping someone was doing something with chocolate!!!
Personally, I don't mind if they switch genes around in foods - it's when they start adding at old insecticide gene and round-up resistant one that I get worried. And when they starting thinking we all need to be eating it.....They can do what they want with crops - as long as I am free to grow what I want to eat and perpare it they way I want.
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Yum--Yum!
http://www.gmo-compass.org/eng/datab...chocolate.html
Is there NO escape?
geo
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11/26/10, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bill83
It can be seen from their website for free. I just watched it. I live in the middle of GM fields of corn and soybeans every summer. I think the movie is very accurate. It is a movie that should be watched before critisized.
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What website - I'd like to see it.
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11/26/10, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Kstornado11
..........When I was a kid I don't remember anyone having cancer (nor Autism,for that matter) that we know, now it seems it affects at least one person in every family that I know! Scary.
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Well, it wasn't diagnosed as such anyway since they didn't have anything but "Mental retardation" to label kids with back in my day. I certainly saw plenty of kids labeled with that one. Autism is the new ADD diagnosis. DS was first diagnosed with ADHD....now aspergers.....the difference is in who did the diagnosing. DD- school psychologist says they might stop using the aspergers diagnosis soon.....
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11/26/10, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by geo in mi
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Why can't they make celery taste like chocolate? Or maybe brussels sprouts? Can you find me a link to that research?
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