laws in idaho

pastelsummer · #1 11/16/10, 09:18 PM

i need laws links ANYTHING that protects homesteaders from health and welfare, my sis lives in a single wide trailer where she has to hauk water in the house with buckets they are piping water as they have money they have electricity and heat just no running water they even have sewer piped in just have to fill the tank to flush it. They told her they are taking the kids if she ever takes them out of there and that HER AND HER DH have to move out also or they will get in trouble. We need some laws here that protect her i dpnt know where to find them

bluetick · #2 11/16/10, 09:59 PM

Does the county have a legal aid office? They might have someone who can help.

pastelsummer · #3 11/16/10, 10:15 PM

i have no clue she is so depressed right now we are worried she may hurt herself over this.

Forlane · #4 11/16/10, 10:26 PM

If you are worried she may hurt herself over this, I hate to say it but, maybe the kids shouldn't be in the household.

pastelsummer · #5 11/16/10, 11:16 PM

no she was fine until this. she actually was getting better than usual. then all this happened.

NamasteMama · #6 11/17/10, 01:08 AM

Is she living in this place with out water now or is she considering moving there? How did the Health and Welfare people get involved? There's more to this story. Hauled water is very common in Arizona, just fill up the tank and your set. Idaho is a very conservative state, so I wonder what dots are not connecting here.

NamasteMama · #7 11/17/10, 01:13 AM

BTW here is a link to the laws http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title16/T16CH16.htm

pastelsummer · #8 11/17/10, 04:00 AM

She asked i do not tell the whole story just find out what i can about the laws I have to respect her wishes

heavyrebel · #9 11/17/10, 08:23 AM

well, sounds like she has other issues the authorities know about, and are simply adding THIS to a list of other problems they see. I'm no big governemnt person by any means, but there is more to this, and it must be bad if she doesn;t want her side represented equally.

BellsBunnies · #10 11/17/10, 08:45 AM

How can people help without knowing the whole story? someone might could point you in the right direction if they knew the facts.

LisaInN.Idaho · #11 11/17/10, 10:45 AM

I live in Idaho and we hauled water for the first year till we got the well drilled. We also lived off-grid with no power till we got our solar/wind system up and running. It was common knowledge at my kids schools but no one batted an eye. My daughters were always clean and dressed well.
I agree that there is something else they are looking at here. Hope it all works out for the best for the children.

pastelsummer · #12 11/17/10, 12:31 PM

I will tell you what i can but not specific details. this started because they had to make my 17 y/o nephew leave. He threatened to mortally harm his sisters and his mother and step-dad. so he had to leave he went to stay with a family who does faster care we they had to report that he is there. so then she was told if they let him stay there no report would be filed, then all of the sudden there are reports and a visit is scheduled. We have no way of knowing what changed they will not say.
And now i think i have made it worse because her case worker is the same case worker who pulled some bs on me and my dh made it so she cannot come out here again AND she was forced to call and apologize, so she was in a bit of trouble and now she is telling lies about me to my other sister ( i called and verified the truth) so i am afraid that this is becoming a witch hunt because she does not like us at all. I do not know what to do now. i have a call into her supervisor on what she is saying about me. but that is another post

texican · #13 11/17/10, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LisaInN.Idaho

I live in Idaho and we hauled water for the first year till we got the well drilled. We also lived off-grid with no power till we got our solar/wind system up and running. It was common knowledge at my kids schools but no one batted an eye. My daughters were always clean and dressed well.
I agree that there is something else they are looking at here. Hope it all works out for the best for the children.

Knew you were off grid, and other folks in the same position.

Sounds like the sis has issues, not related to water... "she actually was getting better than usual."

I'm torn on whether children of folks with problems should be rescued, or should just be sacrificed. Rescued and put in the system is bad... rescued and put with family, fine.

As far as I know, there are no CPS members from Idaho on this board, hoping to rat out someone. If Idaho's CPS folks are like most CPS groups, I doubt if they have time to scan the millions of internet sites looking for problems. Telling your sis's exact story would be very hard to 'match up' with someone's real world troubles, as related to a CPS investigation.

I can tell stories that'd get folks imprisoned, but just use alias's and I doubt any LE in the country could extract the "CSI" to an individual.

Hope the chilluns are ok. Maybe you should think about pre-emptively taking them in, to avoid going thru the heinous regulations that'd be foisted upon you, if they are taken, then placed in your home. Guarantee you wouldn't want that hundred extra layers of bureaucratic fooforal.

**Terri** · #14 11/17/10, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pastelsummer

i have a call into her supervisor on what she is saying about me. but that is another post

GOOD!

Can your sisters family do some of the plumbing work themselves? DO they have a time line to get the plumbing in?

phrogpharmer · #15 11/17/10, 06:58 PM

I know of people in Idaho who don't have running water in their house and they aren't having trouble with authorities over it. One family lives yearound in a teepee by the river with no indoor water. Their kids get on the school bus just like all the other kids.
In the town that I live in, your house is required to be hooked up to the power and water but you are not required to use the power or water if you don't want to.
This part of Idaho is pretty much "live and let live" as long as nobody is endangered.

oneokie · #16 11/17/10, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pastelsummer

this started because they had to make my 17 y/o nephew leave. He threatened to mortally harm his sisters and his mother and step-dad. so he had to leave he went to stay with a family who does faster care we they had to report that he is there. so then she was told if they let him stay there no report would be filed, then all of the sudden there are reports and a visit is scheduled. We have no way of knowing what changed they will not say.

There is the cause of the new problems. No telling what the nephew has been telling the foster care family or CPS.

LisaInN.Idaho · #17 11/17/10, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by texican

Knew you were off grid, and other folks in the same position.

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We were off-grid for 7 years but grid-tied 2 years ago. Now we have the best of both worlds.

Flowergirley · #18 11/17/10, 08:42 PM

Until recently, I was a law enforcement officer - I am experienced in child removal and investigations, and was often called to assist other officers and agencies because of my knowledge and experience. Of course, I am sure many are thinking I am the "bad guy", but I also assisted every family in every way possible, IF possible, in fixing their problems and getting their children back, unless the crime was too heinous to fix.
That being said, there are not any states at last look-see that require plumbing, per se, to "keep" your children. ALL require access to water for sanitation and consumption, and legal sanitation disposal - that means that there does have to be some way to dispose of waste, in a safe and sanitary manner, that also complies with local and state laws. If in the city, almost all cities and municipalities require water and sewer hookup - and require you, when children are residents, to use those services for sanitation, but, obviously, not for consumption.
Whatever the other problems are, whether mental illness allegations, or abuse/neglect allegations, a copy of the complaint is necessary for your sister to defend herself. Then, in looking at the allegations, take steps to correct each one before the legal action commences.
I have to parrot what everyone else and say specifics are needed in order to advise. I am in a different state, but we are in the same child welfare league, so the laws are more similar than not.
I will pray for you, and hope to hear of blessings coming your way.
Annie

Pam6 · #19 11/17/10, 08:53 PM

Sounds like she needs a good lawyer. If the CPS worker is on a witch hunt I would have the lawyer request a new CPS worker immediately and all visits be done with lawyer present.
If the 17 yo has issues, endangering others, he is old enough to be on his own or put into the system until he is 18. Sorry but she needs to cut ties with him to protect the younger children. If it is the 17 yo that is making up lies then the lawyer needs to step in and say that he is lying and prove your sister is telling the truth and that the 17 yo is the one with the issues.

**Terri** · #20 11/17/10, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by oneokie

There is the cause of the new problems. No telling what the nephew has been telling the foster care family or CPS.

yeahhhh.....