Be informed - make your vote count!

Pony · #1 10/29/10, 09:46 AM

With less than a week until elections, I encourage everyone to DO YOUR RESEARCH.

I've been continually astounded by the fact that people believe everything they see on television or hear on radio, and accept it as Bible truth without investigating.

Here in MO, for example, there's a little item called Prop B. Looks great on the ballot - who doesn't want to help helpless puppies? BUT this little bit of legislation was pushed through by the HSUS, who came in with their lobbyists from out-of-state to change Missouri's animal protection laws EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE BEST IN THE UNION!

The goal of Prop B is to destroy responsible dog breeders (they say they're going after puppy mills, but how many puppy mills are registered with the State and compliant with all laws? It's like anti-gun laws: Only the bad guys have guns in those states.)

The MO Dept of Ag has noted that there is no way to be compliant with the unnecessary laws of Prop B (your dog cannot have a piece of kibble in his water dish - seriously, how many of us can right now go and find more than that in our dog's dish?) and other really silly rules that are not nearly as comprehensive as MO's own animal welfare laws.

However, I digress.

To repeat: We have less than a week until elections, so I encourage = no, I'm BEGGING - everyone to DO YOUR RESEARCH.

You cannot trust talking heads on the television or radio or even web sites to give you the full story. I know it's an inconvenience to study up on these things, but if we are not informed voters, it will be a danged sight more inconvenient to try to undo the damage done by voting without a clear idea of what's going on.

We have the incredibly wonderful tool of the Internet. Let's use it to take back our country from those who would use her for their own gain at the expense of our freedom.

65284 · #2 10/29/10, 10:34 AM

Right on Pony!! What makes me really angry about this abomination the kooks are trying to foist off on us, and I'm about as POed as possible, is that the impetus for it and most of the money powering this campaign is coming from out of state.

Yet another case of the "we know what is best for you" crowd trying to impose their beliefs and will on other folks. The worst part of this law is it's just a "camels nose under the tent" wedge the animal rights nuts are going to use to try and disrupt every aspect of animal agriculture they possibly can, if it passes.

And I suspect it is going to pass, thanks to the ignorant masses of city dwellers that haven't a clue what it really means or what the consequences will be.

Fae · #3 10/29/10, 10:46 AM

I'm not in Missouri but was just wondering if there are any ads against it explaining what is wrong with it? I agree about being informed. Of your not, how can you vote?

7thswan · #4 10/29/10, 10:49 AM

This is why we have the Tea Partys. It's what we do. Nothing to do with all the crazy stuff people are saying. We look into peoples voting records as in senators past voting. Read propositions, sometimes the wording can get tricky. Like here in Mich. the want to vote on redoing our constitution. Join a Local Tea party and discuss the issues to find out what you need to know to make an informed decision.

65284 · #5 10/29/10, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Fae

I'm not in Missouri but was just wondering if there are any ads against it explaining what is wrong with it? I agree about being informed. Of your not, how can you vote?

Fae, there are no rebuttal TV ads that I'm aware of. Advertising costs a lot of money, and the pro Prop B folks have a ton of it, thanks to the HSUS, and other radical animal rights groups.

The legal dog breeders and other Ag related endeavors that will be the eventual victims of this legislation have no hope to compete with the huge resources of these groups. The best they can do is a few road side signs and word of mouth.

Even if they had the money what could be said to counter the very well done, staged scenes, of dirty sad eyed puppies folks are seeing? All a lot of people that will vote for this think they know is what they see; they naively believe all of this garbage they are being bombarded with over and over.

SilverFlame819 · #6 10/29/10, 01:31 PM

Isn't HSUS sponsored by that 4-letter word we're not supposed to say or people get all crazy? Rhymes with cheetah?

Here in Utah we have the Utah Humane Society, which is no relation to HSUS... and people who are uninformed will not donate to them, because they claim the HS is supported by *coughs* the cheetah group... I always have to educate people that NO, the two organizations are not related. As far as I know, the ASPCA does not receive funds from said group, so I always prefer to show loyalty to them on a national level... But I too stay away from groups that are funded by terrorists.

Frustrating.

It's just like the NAIS thing... If you jump on the bandwagon with glee, without doing your homework, it can come back to haunt you.

KSALguy · #7 10/29/10, 01:54 PM

http://www.morningstartv.com/oak-ini...arxism-america
i for one am going to vote and do my part to stop Government from Running over us, 41 cents on the dollar that our government spends is borrowd, soon our whole pay checks will be going to the government to pay off JUST the Intrest, its getting crazy out there

KSALguy · #8 10/29/10, 01:55 PM

yes HSUS and PETA are in bed togather, they are the bain of our existance

marinemomtatt · #9 10/29/10, 01:57 PM

Just this morning my husband and I were discussing the Voters Pamplet and our belief that most voters toss it into the recycling bin without even opening it up.

Here in Oregon there's a Medical Marijauana ballot measure, which includes a supply system, low income assistance, research and...may allow a supplier to have 96 OUNCES of pot, that's nearly40,800 joints!
I'm totally behind research into and limited medicinal marijuana use, but the thought that one of my neighbors could get a suppliers license and grow and then keep 96 oz. of pot in his house...A convicted felon could do the same...

Totally freaks me out! I think the ballot measure needs to be rethought!

As I first stated there are voters who haven't even read the measure and the arguments for and against and so are voting blind...makes me crazy.

salmonslayer · #10 10/29/10, 07:53 PM

Good post Pony. I have a "Vote NO on Proposition B" sign in my front yard as do all of the people around here because we are all living on farms but go into the city and they have been hoodwinked so I think it will probably pass and the wording on the ballot (approved by Robin Carnahan) is extremely misleading.

This proposition actually lowers standards already in place and does nothing to combat the real issue which is un-licensed breeders and the current lack of funding for enforcement. MODAG is saying they expect this will actually further bleed their resources and result in them relying on the USDA even more.

And what doesnt get said much is that the very real consequence of this proposition if it passes is the euthanasia of a whole lot of dogs and the loss of jobs and income for rural folks.

Haven · #11 10/29/10, 08:37 PM

Down with prop B. Join Humane Watch on Facebook to help the cause, or visit Humanewatch.org

MO_cows · #12 10/29/10, 08:50 PM

The only advertising AGAINST prop B that I have been exposed to is a radio ad running on kmzu out of Carrollton. A veterinarian explains that laws already exist against animal abuse and that prop B would put reputable breeders out of business.

That's the rub, really, that there are already laws to prevent the puppy mill type of breeders, but you can pass all the laws you want - if there is no budget for enforcement it won't do any good.

I highly resent the national groups meddling with Missouri law. They could use that money to support shelters or spay/neuter programs and do a lot more good.