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Old 10/13/10, 04:06 PM
 
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homesteading in colorado?

im looking at southern co, around the co springs and pueblo areas, the climet seems perfect for me, scenery is gorgeous and i can get a little fixer with a nice chunk of land for a good price...

but ive no idea what that little area of co is like for homesteading...
it looks stunning with quite a few little agricultural areas dotted about...

mild summers, low humidity, crisp winters (but not as snowy as northern co)
a distinct lack of mosquitoes...

thoughts?

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I used to live in CO for many years and just moved from there 2 years ago. Altho we were on the western side. My hubby grew up there.

WATER, WATER, WATER That will be your main issue. Water laws in the western states are a complicated beast and not everyone owns the rights to the water on their own land. Co Springs has grown and spread out. My grandparents had a cabin built outside of there in 1960 in GMF and I spent my summers there. Way too many people there now. We have friends in nearby Calhan and it is encroaching on them.

I dearly loved the weather there. It was great. On the plains, tho, you will have wind and lots of it. It is more desert like on the eastern side.

For most people, tho, they can not get past the water laws.

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Old 10/13/10, 05:22 PM
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Personally, I'd go just a little further east. Into Kansas. There are FAR fewer restrictions.

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kansas is too hot and humid, i have some health issues that pretty much puts me at a 60% humidity tops at that kind of heat...during the summer here in ct i pretty much have to stay indoors with a dehumidifyer from may through early september...

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SE CO is not humid, but it certainly gets hot. Water is a major issue, as Billie has stated. Regulations abound. My family lived in Colorado Springs six years ago. I don't remember too many real estate bargains at that time, but prices have probably dropped quite a bit since then. "Homesteading" land I would have paid very little for, sold for huge prices in those days. A lot of the land (huge parcels) is owned by corporations or other wealthy individuals.

The views are beautiful, but actually enjoying the recreational "opportunities", can be a pain. Hiking trails are crowded, no place to park. Trout fishing is restriced, even on public lands, as sections of the river are leased out, to private outfitters. Boat ramps are crowded on weekends, since thes are not a lot of lakes in that area. Many of the people who settled there during the 90's, came from CA, TX or East Coast, and they have brought the "big city" mentality with them. Still there are many nice people for sure.

With all of the "settlers" that have moved into CO, it has merely become "California light", and as gorgeous as CO is, it has become "paradise lost" IMO.

Good luck if you decide to homestead there.

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Old 10/13/10, 07:25 PM
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kansas is too hot and humid, i have some health issues that pretty much puts me at a 60% humidity tops at that kind of heat...during the summer here in ct i pretty much have to stay indoors with a humidifyer from may through early september...
Hot and humid? Western Kansas??
No more so than eastern/southern CO...

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with all of the "settlers" that have moved into CO, it has merely become "California light"
I agree completely. Eastern CO, not nearly as much, but in the areas you're talking, Foxy...
Nope, no way!
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according to the national weather data, average humidity for pueblo co is around 50% mid summer, average humitiy in kansas mid summer is closer to 80% mabe im just looking at the wrong data?

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Old 10/13/10, 09:00 PM
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I would not consider it even just for the sake of water issues. I just don't trust the "grid" enough. We are instead going to settle in NE WA which is very similar to the climate of the Front Range. Much less restricted here!

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Old 10/13/10, 09:28 PM
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according to the national weather data, average humidity for pueblo co is around 50% mid summer, average humitiy in kansas mid summer is closer to 80% mabe im just looking at the wrong data?
Probably. lol
You're comparing a single city in an arid area to an ENTIRE STATE (which has an extremely muggy eastern edge!)

I guarantee, the relative humidity between Pueblo and Dodge City, as an example, are very similar.
As I type, Pueblo is currently 54% and Dodge City is 45%. They're only 150 miles apart, afterall.

However, it would seem that despite your request for opinions, you have your heart set on that area. I understand completely how it feels to just love an area and ---- the torpedos. But it isn't homesteading friendly.
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cool, ill definatly expand my search into ks then...
any areas id be best looking...

ill be a single young woman looking for a smaller (5-10 acres) with a small house or mobile in place, within an hours drive to bigger city convenience like a walmart and a good medical center...
would like somewhere with a small friendly town feel, not overly churchy...religion is fine just keep it to yourself lol...preferably someplace with that state fair, local goings on ect feel lol.

and a zoo or wildlife center would be great, im a zoologist by training and an experienced vector and raptor rehabber...i was a zoo keeper for 5 years and would love that oportunity again one day...

and preferably lacking in mosquitoes (im highly allergic lol)

hot is fine as long as its not muggy...winters can be cold and some snow but im soooo done with ice storms and noreasters.

and id prefer not to be in the center of a natural disaster hot bed lol...no trips to oz for me thanks :P


betho, i love washington state but i simply could never be able to afford to do what im looking to do there, its almost as expensive as connecticut.

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cool, ill definatly expand my search into ks then...
any areas id be best looking...

ill be a single young woman looking for a smaller (5-10 acres) with a small house or mobile in place, within an hours drive to bigger city convenience like a walmart and a good medical center...
would like somewhere with a small friendly town feel, not overly churchy...religion is fine just keep it to yourself lol...preferably someplace with that state fair, local goings on ect feel lol.

and a zoo or wildlife center would be great, im a zoologist by training and an experienced vector and raptor rehabber...i was a zoo keeper for 5 years and would love that oportunity again one day...

and preferably lacking in mosquitoes (im highly allergic lol)

hot is fine as long as its not muggy...winters can be cold and some snow but im soooo done with ice storms and noreasters.

and id prefer not to be in the center of a natural disaster hot bed lol...no trips to oz for me thanks :P


betho, i love washington state but i simply could never be able to afford to do what im looking to do there, its almost as expensive as connecticut.
................Look over around grand junction ! Montrose is a really nice , small area with access too the Ouray , Silverton Area ! Montrose is only 35 miles north of Ouray and kinda out of the mountains , it has all the big box stores and full medical facilities as well ! , fordy
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Old 10/13/10, 11:30 PM
 
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Fordy is probably right about location in Co. Water restrictions in Co. are crazy at best.

However if you look into Ks. look south of Dodge City. There is a little town called Ashland (Ex-Wifes Grand Parents are there) Great little town and only 45 mins. from Dodge. I don't remember any Zoo's there , but pretty much everything else your looking for is in Dodge City. Within a couple of hours drive you can be in Co. , Ok. , Tx. and most Big cities in Ks. Only problem would be the Oz issue. LOL

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Grand Junction is where I moved from. It is NOT your small town atmosphere. There is over 150,000 in the valley now and still growing. We still have family there and are back there a couple times a year. Was just there in July and Sept. It does have a good medical facility in St. Mary's Hospital with a life flight helicopter.

Montrose is much smaller but growing. Was just there last month. But price wise for 3-5 acres you are still looking at $250,000 on up.

Ouray and Silverton are pretty but way too expensive. Think Telluride/Aspen prices!

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The water issue is a biggie, depending on what you want to raise on your homestead.I'm in Cedaredge, Co. We have irrigation rights, but we have to pay our dues every year to use them. I can raise hay, cattle, garden, have a green yard, etc. our dues run us about 160 a year. So you just have to be very careful your land includes water rights, and not just early water, which runs out in June, but all season rights ( April till Oct. 15 or so, I'm flooding four acres right now!!) Sprinkler irrigation is a joke here, the water evaporates before it hits the ground...Yes, it is that dry out here. I have a good friend who only raises a small garden and goats, she doesn't have any water rights, but has to dry lot her goats. For her, spending the extra money on land with water and yearly dues just was more expensive than buying in hay.

Front range is the only place with a zoo out here, don't know about rehab centers.

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I was born in Greely CO and spent alot of time growing up in CO Springs area.
most of my family is in Calhan CO about 30 miles east of the Springs. As far as homesteading it depends on what you want to do. Water is a big issue and so are prarie fires. and on the plains if you dont like vermont winter i doubt you will like winter on the CO prairie WIND WIND WIND snow drifts big time and cold really cold. But if you look around the Black forest area wich streches east from the mountains into the prairie you may find what your looking for there. big pine forest makes a great wind break severl mountian springs some with good fishing and lots of meadows throughout the black forest makes great pasture. but again water water water. and it is remarkbly drier there than in KS

when i was in the army I was stationed at fort riley KS. HOT and humid i think even more than where we live now in indiana but it may not be as humid farther west in KS. winters were horrible we had an ice storm back in 2007 so bad the whole county was with out power for a week meaning no heat. pipes froze, roads were closed, trees down every where. I was in iraq but the wife with my 2 daughters (2yrs and 3yrs old) lived in the kitchen with the gas stove on for heat was stranded in our house on the base for a week. so if you dont like vermont winters then you wont like KS and tornado ally pretty much covers the state. and as i recall western Kansas was wide open not a tree for miles and all wheat fields and oil derics but still kind of pretty

but with that being said my favorite place is KS i wish we could move back there the flint hills (Central KS) are beautifull and its the perfect place to me for homesteading. We miss it alot. If i could id move out by Abaline. but every wear you go has its ups and downs here its the cost of living. And CO is my favorite place to vist id rather go to the camp or hunt in the CO mountains than go anywhere else in the world.

good luck im sure you will be happy where ever you go

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Old 10/14/10, 04:48 AM
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I was born in NE CO not far from Erin then moved to the front range (Loveland) for high school. I would not look at CO for anything even close to homesteading. Taxes and permits and water would worry you away quickly. There is nothing within 3 hours of Denver that fosters homesteading.

Best hint that I will give. Look at the Republican River valley all the way into Nebraska if you like the zone.

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................Look over around grand junction ! Montrose is a really nice , small area with access too the Ouray , Silverton Area ! Montrose is only 35 miles north of Ouray and kinda out of the mountains , it has all the big box stores and full medical facilities as well ! , fordy

Thread drift here... but DH and I were on vacation and drove the road between Silverton and Ouray right after it opened up (had been closed overnight due to ice). That drive took 10 yrs off my life... It's a gorgeous area though, I love Colorado!
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Old 10/14/10, 08:26 AM
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Like everyone has said, water is a big deal in CO, and getting more scarce all the time. You might look around the Fruita, Palisade areas. Fantastic orchards there, my cousin has a you-pick orchard in Palisade, they grow 5 types of peaches, several apples varieties, grapes, cherries, etc. Lots of vineyards and wineries there, too. My mother was raised in Paonia on a fruit farm, really nice climate in that area. Any property in CO with good water is going to be costly. Good luck!!

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Have you looked into west Texas. It is dry and does have a mountian range. Does get hot but is not humid. At least here in Texas you can have a water catchment system. Can't have that in CO.

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Having lived and built in Colorado too I know all about the issues. And if you will permit me a question and thread drift here.

The biggest problem Colorado has with water is California. So all those people can water their lawns. they even take it from the farmers in CA. So why doesn't CO shut down or curtail the water. CA has a whole ocean they can use to get water from. The other problem is the lake (brain freeze right now) It just seems so ridiculous. I could get all political here but won't

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