Possible cause of bee deaths

[poppy]

I'd say this it. A virus and a fungus found only in colonies will colony collapse disorder and not in healthy colonies. There have been articles blaming it on everything from pesticides to cell phone towers. As usual, it turns out to be a more routine reason.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101006/...ci_bee_disease

[foxtrapper]

"We truly don't know if these two pathogens cause CCD or whether the colonies with CCD are more likely to succumb to these two pathogens," Jerry J. Bromenshenk of the University of Montana said in a statement.

We've heard this before. As always it leaves unanswered the question of why the bees leave to forage but never return to the hive.

[Batt]

Possible cause, Uh, yeah, possible.

"We truly don't know if these two pathogens cause CCD or whether the colonies with CCD are more likely to succumb to these two pathogens," Jerry J. Bromenshenk of the University of Montana said in a statement

My bet is still on the pesticides after being stressed by1500 mile truck rides and being fed nothing but HFCS.

Oops Foxtrapper, I guess my typing is kinda slow.

[alleyyooper]

New Demons Found. The CCD Trail Gets Much Warmer.

http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/sho...11#post4681211

Al

[poppy]

Originally Posted by foxtrapper

"We truly don't know if these two pathogens cause CCD or whether the colonies with CCD are more likely to succumb to these two pathogens," Jerry J. Bromenshenk of the University of Montana said in a statement.

We've heard this before. As always it leaves unanswered the question of why the bees leave to forage but never return to the hive.

But a combination of viral/fungal infections able to discolor their body tissues could easily make them ill enough to disorient them. They may not be leaving to forage at all. They may be leaving because the illness has them confused.

[ldc]

The news release from the U of Montana last night on national news also expressed concern that most bees now only have access to one protein and one main carbohydrate source, when they forage on one monocrop. There is some speculation that this may weaken their immune systems, which contributes to the fungus/virus situation. ldc

[PrincessFerf]

Perhaps another example of how mother nature knows better than factory farming?

[fishhead]

It looks like this would have happened a long time ago if foraging on monocrops was a problem.

[tinknal]

Originally Posted by PrincessFerf

Perhaps another example of how mother nature knows better than factory farming?

Huh?

[Heritagefarm]

Originally Posted by fishhead

It looks like this would have happened a long time ago if foraging on monocrops was a problem.

I wouldn't blame that for the bees disappearance, but overuse of toxic chemicals.

[arabian knight]

I see this is going to be factory farming VS non factory farming again. And it is further from the truth. Factory farming had nothing to do with this colony collapse.
I see even HFCS
Oh my not that again.
Not when a person digs into the scientific parts of what sugar and HFCS is they are BOTH the same Both are 50/50 glucose and fructose.
ANd so is HFCS. well to be truly accurate it is 52% fructose. And 48% glucose
The same thing as Table Sugar is.
Table sugar breaks done the chemical bond in the tummy, and the HFCS breaks done just before it hits the digestive track.
Noe there is the true story on the difference when it comes right down to it NO difference at all as far as the human body is concerned.
And that one report made years ago found there was No Difference either until they separated the rats between female and male and found a very few had gained some wt. not enough to matter but it was never repeated and it was really never a scientific research ever done again. Just that One report that was blown way out of proportion.

[tinknal]

Originally Posted by arabian knight

I see this is going to be factory farming VS non factory farming again. And it is further from the truth. Factory farming had nothing to do with this colony collapse.
I see even HFCS
Oh my not that again.

Easy now AK. They have to follow the script you know.....

[Emmy D]

Originally Posted by PrincessFerf

Perhaps another example of how mother nature knows better than factory farming?

I wish there was a like button here, like on Facebook, cause I like your post!!

Emmy

[Patt]

Originally Posted by alleyyooper

New Demons Found. The CCD Trail Gets Much Warmer.

http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/sho...11#post4681211

Al

Interesting article!

[tinknal]

Originally Posted by Emmy D

I wish there was a like button here, like on Facebook, cause I like your post!!

Emmy

As long as they have a thumbs down button too..................

[plowjockey]

Originally Posted by PrincessFerf

Perhaps another example of how mother nature knows better than factory farming?

LOL

Honey bees have little to do with "Mother Nature".

They are not even native to North America. We brought them here 400 years ago, kept them in unatural hives, regularily relieved them of their natural food source, medicated them when necessary, hauled them back and forth across the country and decided for them, what they will pollinate.

They have had problems in the past and now they have another, which happens to be a major one. Instead of looking for a solution, we are looking for someone to blame. Big Ag is always a good target. Blame pesticides, but we have been using the same ones for 30 years, with this problem a lot more recent.

Honey bees have been the lifeblood of U.S. agriculture, since day one, for sure. Maybe both big AG and the small farmer, can work together, to figure out whats going on.

Both group sucess are totally reliant, on the survival of the honey bee.

[foxtrapper]

Originally Posted by plowjockey

Blame pesticides, but we have been using the same ones for 30 years...

Really? Went to post a list of names of some of the new pesticides that have been created in the past few years, and the list exceeded the 10,000 character limit of this board. There have been thousands of new pesticides created in the past thirty years. Research it a little.

[Heritagefarm]

Originally Posted by tinknal

Easy now AK. They have to follow the script you know.....

Hey now... At least it's on 100% recycled paper.

[BillHoo]

Originally Posted by plowjockey

LOL

Honey bees have little to do with "Mother Nature".

They are not even native to North America. We brought them here 400 years ago, kept them in unatural hives, regularily relieved them of their natural food source, medicated them when necessary, hauled them back and forth across the country and decided for them, what they will pollinate.

They have had problems in the past and now they have another, which happens to be a major one. Instead of looking for a solution, we are looking for someone to blame. Big Ag is always a good target. Blame pesticides, but we have been using the same ones for 30 years, with this problem a lot more recent.

Honey bees have been the lifeblood of U.S. agriculture, since day one, for sure. Maybe both big AG and the small farmer, can work together, to figure out whats going on.

Both group sucess are totally reliant, on the survival of the honey bee.

That's kinda like when bannanas went extinct in the late 1950s and we had to replace them with something similar.

It cost millions, but we were able to do it by cutting down huge swaths of rainforest. They say it's happening again and they are frantically looking for another replacement.

The the likely sucessor is described as "...a highly versatile fruit, suitable for cooking and eating; it has a slightly tart, apple-like flavor..."

What would they replace the honebee with? Biting flies?

[zant]

Chemtrails with alum....just saying...don't know