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Old 09/18/10, 05:17 PM
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Brix/Refractometer

Does anyone here use the refractometer for crop quality measurement? From my understanding, it measures sugar/carbohydrate density. One limitation, however, is that is can only measure liquids. What are people's experiences with this tool? I would be specifically using it for grasses.

I'm also interested in the applications of a spectrophotometer, although that will be much later (looking at $700-$2000++).
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Old 09/18/10, 06:42 PM
 
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Used a brix meter a lot in setting fountain drink mixes. Pretty simple and foolproof. My guess is you would blend a measured weight of the crop into a measured amount of water, centrifuge it or let it settle, and have at. Don't see any gotchas as long as you keep things clean.

Why the need for a spectrophotometer?
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Old 09/18/10, 09:12 PM
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Not sure, really. My understanding is that it could measure certain nutrients and objects in a substance, e.g., vitamin A in milk.
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Old 09/19/10, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by High Brix Gardens
Brix is a term popularized by Carey Reams. When used on plant sap it is primarily a measure of the carbohydrate level in plant juices. The instrument used to obtain a brix reading is the refractometer. Refractometers come in two basic styles, optical and digital. Both types work great. Here is how a refractometer is used: squeeze out some sap from a plant, put 2 drops of the juice on the prism, close the prism cover, point to a light source, focus the eye piece, and read the measurement. The brix reading is indicated where the light and dark fields intersect.

What part of the plant is used for taking a brix reading? Whatever part you eat if it is ripe. If it is not ripe take the most recent mature leaves that have had full sunlight for at least 2 hours. Ideally measurements should be taken at the same time of day as you compare throughout the growing season.

A refractometer measures the amount of bend or refraction in the rays of light as they pass through the plant sap. This is why a brix chart is more properly called a Refractive Index of Crop Juices.

Click here to download the Brix Chart as a PDF.

What causes light to refract as it passes through plant sap?

1. The amount of carbohydrates in the juice.
2. The amount of dissolved minerals in the plant sap.
3. The amount of covalent bonding.

What proof can be offered to show that higher brix readings equal higher quality?
High Brix Foods Have Greater Carbohydrate Levels

Carbohydrates are the fuel the body uses for basic metabolic function. This has tremendous implications on digestion and human health. This is covered more fully in Food Quality & Digestion.
High Brix Foods Have Greater Mineral Density

One of the health rules that Dr. Carey Reams taught was that:

"All disease is the result of a mineral deficiency."

This rule clearly shows why it is so important to eat foods with high mineral density. One of the most important nutrients that increases with high brix readings is calcium. According to Dr. Reams calcium levels in produce rise and fall proportionately with the brix levels. This has been independently confirmed by Bob Pike in his research on tissue testing. Disorders and degenerative diseases resulting from a calcium deficiency could fill several books.

In addition to increased calcium levels, high brix foods also supply more trace minerals such as copper, iron, and manganese. Trace minerals function as co-enzymes in the digestive process. Co-enzymes work with enzymes as activators of those enzymes. These trace minerals have higher atomic weights. Due to greater mineral density and the inclusion of heavier trace minerals high brix foods weigh more per unit than lower quality produce.

Minerals in foods are in a naturally chelated form. Naturally chelated minerals are bound to amino acids that have a right-hand spin. Amino acids with a right-hand spin are referred to as L-Amino acids. L-Amino acids are biologically active. This translates into easy assimilation into the body compared to inorganic minerals taken in pill form. Amino acids that have been compounded by man have a left-hand spin, which is known as D-Amino acids, or they are a mixture of the L and D form of amino acids. The D form is not biologically active and is rarely found in nature. The L and D forms of amino acids are mirror images of each other. This is the reason why mineral supplements that have minerals bound to an amino acid and claimed to be chelated need to be checked which form the amino acids are in. When it comes to supplementing with vitamins and minerals it is BUYER BEWARE. The indiscriminate use of vitamins and minerals can create a dangerous situation whereas the correct use of vitamins, minerals, and enzymes can be very beneficial to the body. When consuming high quality fruits and vegetables the there is no need for the BUYER BEWARE warning.
High Brix Foods Taste BetterHigh Brix Foods Taste Better

Why won’t little Johnny eat his peas? They taste terrible. Little Johnny instinctively knows that sweet tasting peas are better while poor-quality peas are instantly rejected. Have you ever eaten a 22 brix grape? Once you have you won’t forget the taste. A candy bar will be held in disdain by little Jane compared to 22 brix grapes. Ask any old-timer if they like the taste of fruits and vegetables now compared to when they were young. I am sure you won’t be able to find a single person that feels today’s are better. Taste is built upon the upon the carbohydrate and mineral levels in the produce. When they decline so does the taste. What about aroma? That seems lost as well. Todays average 2-3 brix hydroponic greenhouse tomato looks like a tomato but it has virtually no aroma and is nearly tasteless. It is a poor caricature of what a tomato should be. As a culture Americans are so used to eating low quality produce we don’t even know what really good produce tastes like.
High Brix Plants Are Insect And Disease Resistant

Here we see the handiwork of our Creator. Plants in poor health emit an electo-magnetic frequency that insects tune in to. This in effect calls them in for a feast. Plants in good health emit a different frequency that insects do not tune in to. Nature has been designed to use insects to get rid of poor quality plants that are unfit for human consumption. In the same way a poorly balanced soil will produce plants susceptible to disease. Properly balanced soil will produce plants resistant to disease. William Albrecht put it this way:

Insects and disease are the symptoms of a failing crop, not the cause of it. It’s not the overpowering invader we must fear but the weakened condition of the victim.

Ouch!
Animals Instinctively Prefer High Brix Foods

Animals prefer high brix foodsAnimals have a greater sense of instinct than does mankind. Their instinct for survival can be seen in the multitude of stories arising from the recent tsunami. Wild animals were not caught by surprise—they had fled for higher ground hours before the waves hit the shores. This same level of instinct carries over to their choice of foods. The foods of highest mineral density and health are preferred over poorer quality. Here is something to ponder over. Wild deer will not graze genetically modified corn stalks unless close to starving. This is why conservationists who are planting corn specifically for the deer population will avoid planting genetically modified corn. Production agriculture has found that it takes twice as many acres of genetically modified cornstalks to get the same amount of weight gain on cattle as compared to conventional non-GMO corn varieties.

Here is an easy experiment to prove this point. Buy whole field corn sold in the birdseed section of your local supermarket and some popcorn. Whole field corn will weigh somewhere around 55 lbs. per bushel while the popcorn will be around 66-68 lbs. per bushel. Offer both corn samples to some chickens that are not overly hungry and see which corn they eat first. They first go after the popcorn with great enthusiasm and then the field corn with less enthusiasm. Why? Popcorn has greater mineral density as indicated by test weight. Cattle have the same instinct. They will always prefer the forage with the higher sugar content. This has been proven many times by seeing which hay cattle eat first when offered a choice.

In conclusion Brix has become the gold standard to measure plant quality. Measuring the brix level on plants is quick, simple, and fairly inexpensive. Unfortunately some of the largest detractors of the Brix=Quality movement propagate a system of agriculture that produces low-brix plants. These plants need ‘crop protection’ in the form of herbicides, insecticides, and fungicides. These pesticides disrupt the delicate microbial balance in the soil and contribute to the continued production of low-brix foods. Another quote from that eminent soil scientist, William Albrecht, seems in order:

The use of (pesticide) sprays is an act of desperation in a dying agriculture.

The good news is that more and more people are demanding higher-quality food and numerous farmers are getting off the pesticide/GMO/low-brix merry-go-round and beginning to produce food that can have a tremendous impact on improving our health and nutrition—and it all starts with our digestive system.
http://www.highbrixgardens.com/what-is-brix.html
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Old 09/19/10, 12:06 PM
 
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We have not done much with grassesbut we do test brix often on our produce. It pays off. We charge more for our stuff but always sell out before others because of the flavor. we adjust our fertilizer according to our brix readings and get super results.
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That quote has a lot of over-simplification and some questionable claims. For instance, if you followed the logic slavishly, cattle and other animals would chow down on sugar cane, to the exclusion of other feeds. Having driven through miles and miles of sugar cane, one notable aspect is the nearly utter absence of visible animals or even road-kill. There are some birds, but that is about it. The baggase is rarely used as fodder, even though there are ranches near the processing facilities.

Brix is not a guarantee of mineral content either, and I would hazard that it is actually a fairly poor indicator. For instance, there are issues with nitrates in maple sap, which would affect the brix and make you think it contained minerals in addition to sugar, when it does not.

As for insects honing in on electromagnetic fields, you can do your own experiment. Place a rotten bit of fruit in a glass or plastic container. Neither appreciably affect electromagnetic fields. Now place a similar substance in a screened container. Count the number of insects on the surface of the glass and the surface of the screen. Insects are attracted to odors and some are phototropic, I've not noticed any (other than certain ants, which may be heat sensitive) that are at all attracted to wires carrying electricity.

You would do well to ask your questions at a local land-grant university or extension service, where agriculture is rigorously field tested and plants are analyzed. While the concept of using brix is a cute shortcut for testing, it probably fits in the duct tape and baling twine category of scientific farming.
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Old 09/19/10, 06:12 PM
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That may be, but wouldn't sugar cane show up very high on the refractometer?
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Old 09/19/10, 09:17 PM
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No matter how much sugar-coating that linked article puts on it, Brix is merely the sugar content. It states that there are tomatoes at 2-3 Brix? Absolute lowest on any list is Longkeeper at 4.20 and EVERY tomato which I have ever tasted was sweeter than that! The article also implies that we should be eating things with higher sugar content at a time when that's exactly what many are blaming the nation's supposed obesity problem on. I did, however, get a chuckle out of the fact that the desire for sugar by both animals and humans is a natural thing and not an addiction caused by some conspirators just interested in selling sucrose and fructose.

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Old 09/19/10, 09:45 PM
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There are different types of sugar in the carbohydrate group, Paquebot. The one that everyone gets in uproar about is sucrose.
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Old 09/19/10, 10:03 PM
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There are different types of sugar in the carbohydrate group, Paquebot. The one that everyone gets in uproar about is sucrose.
Maybe you were away when there have been a lot of discussions here on fructose? Many here blame it for everything from ADHD to ED! The bulk of our sucrose comes from sugar cane and sugar beets which seem to be accepted by most and that's what Brix is about. You want higher Brix? You'll get higher sucrose. Most commercial fructose comes from corn and a lot of that comes from ethanol plants. I don't have a problem with that and my truck runs just fine on locally-produced E85.

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I'll raise my hand to being concerned SPECIFICALLY about "high fructose corn syrup" rather than sucrose or dextrose. My reasons are far too complex to summarize. You can take my opinion as just one opinion among many, or you can research my past posts and determine for yourself if I am prone to hyperbole and false claims.
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We have had our crops checked with a refractometer, and measure sugar content of the plant. If the plant has proper sugar content it is less likely to have stress problems, making it less likely to have insect problems. We do not have one but our field man from consulting crop company does. We have used it some on alfalfa also but have a lot of learning to do on it yet. >Thanks Marc
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