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09/17/10, 10:10 AM
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Wood stove advise - Jøtul F 602 CB
I'm thinking about this woodstove for my cabin. Anyone use one or familiar with the manufacturer?
http://www.jotul.com/en-us/wwwjotulu...otul-F-602-CB/
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09/17/10, 10:18 AM
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This is what I have in the "big" cabin. I love it. Bigger than I need but I build small fires and let them go out. It heats up the cast iron and radiates it to other thermal mass. The cast iron holds heat a lot longer than the thinner steel stoves. Looks good, has the glass door to see the fire, small....James
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09/17/10, 10:25 AM
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I've got a plain old 602, and I like it. Doesn't hold much wood, but has about the smallest footprint of any stove I've ever seen. It'll hold a fire for over 12 hours.
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09/17/10, 10:31 AM
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Did you get price info , looks like what I've been looking for !
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09/17/10, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Vickie44
Did you get price info , looks like what I've been looking for !
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Not yet, No dealer in Casper area but there is one in Billings that I'll visit soon.
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09/17/10, 11:01 AM
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I've always been a fan of Jøtul woodstoves, they are well built and sturdy, had a different model in a house I lived in. Noticed that this particular stove only heats 800 st ft. IS that enough? I am interested in the price of said stove too, because one day I am hoping to build a small off the grid cabin, and it would be perfect.
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09/17/10, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Our Little Farm
I've always been a fan of Jøtul woodstoves, they are well built and sturdy, had a different model in a house I lived in. Noticed that this particular stove only heats 800 st ft. IS that enough? I am interested in the price of said stove too, because one day I am hoping to build a small off the grid cabin, and it would be perfect.
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That's more than enough as my cabin is a little 20' by 20' A-frame that is only used on a few weekends in the winter.
jwal10 - How big is your "big" cabin? What do you use in the "small" cabin?
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09/17/10, 11:15 AM
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Sounds perfect then.
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09/17/10, 11:16 AM
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We have a Jotul parlor stove in the living room of our house, and I just love it. My family heated with wood most of my childhood, and this is one of the best stoves I've had/used. It holds a fire well, it's easy for me to keep clean, maintain, etc.
When it is bitter, bitter cold outside, we put a tower fan behind it, on low, to help move some of the heat out a bit. That helps a lot, and the fan is very, very quiet.
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09/17/10, 11:43 AM
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I have never been a fan of cast iron woodstoves for occassional use - or weekend use - cabins. The reason is the owner arrives at an ice cold cabin and is tempted to build the biggest, and hottest, fire he can to warm the place up ASAP. In this scenario, it is easy to over fire a wood stove. In the case of a cast iron stove, when quickly heated from ice cold to red hot, it can crack. I've seen many cracked cast iron wood stoves for sale at auctions and on craigslist.
If the stove is going to be used for more-or-less continuous use in a home setting - where wide temperature fluctuations are unlikely - then cast iron is an OK stove material.
Personally, from someone who has heated with firewood for over three decades, my recommendation for a woodstove is one made of thick plate steel.
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09/17/10, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cabin Fever
I have never been a fan of cast iron woodstoves for occassional use - or weekend use - cabins. The reason is the owner arrives at an ice cold cabin and is tempted to build the biggest, and hottest, fire he can to warm the place up ASAP. In this scenario, it is easy to over fire a wood stove. In the case of a cast iron stove, when quickly heated from ice cold to red hot, it can crack. I've seen many cracked cast iron wood stoves for sale at auctions and on craigslist.
If the stove is going to be used for more-or-less continuous use in a home setting - where wide temperature fluctuations are unlikely - then cast iron is an OK stove material.
Personally, from someone who has heated with firewood for over three decades, my recommendation for a woodstove is one made of thick plate steel.
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That is a very good point. I thank you for that information, I am in the market for my first stove and you just made me realize that I should get a steel stove. Thank you.
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09/17/10, 12:42 PM
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Good point for weekend use , mine will be for in my small house full time
OLF I checked websites , not many listed price but the one I found started at $799. Makes the little round stove at Northern Tool for $299 worth checking out
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09/17/10, 01:50 PM
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While I've always known over firing a cast stove would crack it, I've never associated it happening more with weekend cabins. Guess I just learned something new. Thanks CF.
The Vogelzang "Rancher" is still a cast stove. I won't even consider it being it's not air tight. Just wouldn't be safe us sleeping in the loft above it with the wife on O2. We'll have to exit the loft right next to the stove.
The only plate steel stoves that I've felt where small enough to keep from overheating the cabin were "tent" stoves. Since they aren't EPA rated have no idea if they are air tight. DW also hasn't seen one that she likes the apperance.
Any links to ones you'd suggest?
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09/17/10, 02:39 PM
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...The only plate steel stoves that I've felt where small enough to keep from overheating the cabin were "tent" stoves. Since they aren't EPA rated have no idea if they are air tight...
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There are many manufacturers of plate steel woodstoves. Most manufacturers that I'm familiar with make a small model for cabins.
Plate steel brands that I'd recommend starting with are Lopi, Napoleon, Buck, Drolet and Regency.
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09/17/10, 02:54 PM
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If you can find one, my top recommendation for a small cabin would be the Lopi Patriot Made of 1/4" and 3/16" plate steel and EPA exempt.
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09/17/10, 03:52 PM
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The smallest Lopi I could find was the Republic 1250.
http://www.lopistoves.com/product_gu...il.aspx?id=242
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09/17/10, 04:40 PM
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Never had a problem with mine when cabin was used part time. I took my small plate steel stove with heating coil to the small cabin (1 room 12'x18') this fall so I can heat water with it there. The big "full" time cabin is less than 400 sq ft. + a 6'x15' bath/sunroom/spa. I have enough solar, passive and hydro power to heat water at the big cabin. I know this cast iron stove puts out more heat than the steel plate stove and holds the heat in the stove longer. Both about the same size. The old cast iron was very porous, kind of like heating wet rocks. New high quality cast has small pores....James
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09/17/10, 05:13 PM
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Yep, it looks like that's the one that took over for the discontinued Lopi Patriot.
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09/17/10, 06:22 PM
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Installed this stove last Winter, it was a floor model. With the rear heat shield it came to $800ish. Store printed off the missing manual & the paperwork for the $1500 tax credit. So in a sense it was free.
We choose a small stove for 2 reasons; the 1st is that the room is 12'x13' and the hearth needed to be as small a footprint as possible, 2nd we have to be frugal with firewood. No way could we maintain a bigger firebox.
Our goal was to heat the primary rooms and provide a source for cooking & laundry. I found a few other stoves that I liked but they didn't have a totally flat cooking surface a must have.
The Jotul heats our 1200 sq.ft. house for the majority of the Winter last year with the help of a ceiling fan. To be more specific it heated the front room where it is installed to low 70's, and the rest of the house anywhere from the low 60's to low 50's. Our house is circa 1902 wasn't designed to have central heat so I have the ablity to close off rooms such as the livingroom.
It's a nice little stove, simple in it's design and easy to operate. On good wood loaded half full I can get 6 - 7 hours. I would perfer that it had an ash pan but then where would the fun be in assigning hearth duties to my children.
Pics on my blog under hearth - http://thirtyfivebyninety.blogspot.c...h/label/Hearth
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