Hog hunt troubles!!!

[braggscowboy]

Want to tell a story. Went to neighbors last night to eat supper (3 mile neighbor). Good "country" family. Close knit. grown kids 3 girls 1 boy. They pretty well do everything together. They can cut more wood, haul more hay and catch more fish than anyone I know. Pretty much do these things for living. Boy builds barns or boat dock once in a while with girls and dad helping. This family is in the woods all the time hunting also. Eat lots of deer and have enough for all winter. Have fish fry of catfish about once a mounth all year long. Trotlines and when the river is up, it will be rod and reel with chicken liver! But their big love is hog hunting. If there is a hog anywhere around they will find it. Boy and girls both hunt as well as the girls husbands and kids. Not only do they hunt hogs, they catch them alive, any size if posssible. Sometimes not possible. Even hunt as night. I saw pictures of one that they had to kill a couple weeks ago that weigh around 400 or so pounds. They had to kill it, it was killing all their dogs. With the tushes it had, you could see why. The story about them was when I went to eat, the boy had his arm in a cast and I asked "what happen to you"? He said "a horse kicked me!" I said " you don't have a horse. He told a story of hog hunting Saturday on Public Land and they had taken a horse with them to bring out hogs when the caught one. They catch and eat or sell to "high fence" place that then sell hunts and they use the money to go to Colorado hunting. While hunting over the weekend they had treed a hog and had it caught by the legs and a dog ran in on the hog and got one of the BIL's finger and tore it up, they took him by horse to the truck and brought the horse back and attemped to load the hog on the horse. (green broke, I might add). Roy said that the horse kept going round and round and was very difficult to load, but managed to get it loaded. He had it where he could turn loose of rope and hog would come off if the horse tried to run away. Got to the truck with the hog and a bull dog they use as catch dog, who had been around horses all his life, decided he wanted to catch the horse for some reason (my guess the combination of horse and hog together. Roy said that he was up under the horse biting and grabbing flanks on the horse. He said he turned the hog loose and he fell off the horse. He was "hog tied". The dog would not quit after the horse and he was trying to get the dog and you guessed it, the horse kicked him and broke his arm. After the horse kicked him he said that the dog went over by the truck and layed down and did not bark again. They had three hogs and had to turn them loose because they were so far in the woods and had to go a distance to the hospital. Now think about what this would of looked like on you-tube. I know this family and I know this would have been quiet a show. One of the girls got hurt on a 4 wheeler going over a bank with a big hog on the back, live, and it turned over a while back. One of the girls met her husband on a hog hunt. You will need to use your imagination to know what this must of looked like.

I wanted to post this on this thread so more people could get a laugh. Now mind you, they will attempt to catch any size they can and mean dosen't mean anything to them. They have to look for more hog dogs. They use vests on their dogs and still loose some or cut up quiet often. Thank for reading and I hope you get a laugh from what it must of looked like to load a hog on a green broke horse and a bulldog trying to eat a horse up with a hog on it and everyone trying to catch the dog and hold a bucking horse.

[elkhound]

hog hunters have grit...especially hound owners

[SFM in KY]

I can imagine! I've not hunted hogs, or hunted anything with dogs ... but I HAVE loaded deer on a green broke horse and that was "Wild, wild West" enough for me.

[Txrider]

Yeah If I was going to hog hunt a lot I'd have to get a horse and a couple of lacy dogs and herd em up old school style like they did back in the 30's.

I have a cajun buddy over in Louisiana that hunts hogs barefoot with nothing but a big spear in his rice fields.. Sometimes he gets 4-5 in a night.

[greif]

will be we seeing them in the darwin report someday?

[Txrider]

Here's my cajun buddy going after the feral hogs that are eating up all his rice fields...

He's pretty hard core..

Warning, graphic spear hunt of wild pigs video...

YouTube

Back in the day folks in Texas had dogs trained to herd wild hogs... Lacy dogs..

You set up a pen with a hole the size the dog could jump through. You sent the dogs out to harass the pigs until they got mad enough to chase the dogs, and the dogs just led em back into the pen, working them to keep them chasing, and jumped out the hole, you shut the gate, and you got a pen full of wild hogs.

http://www.nationallacydog.org/gibbsletter.html

http://www.nationallacydog.org/truewestlacys.html

The dogs used became the state dog of Texas, but I know of nobody hunting hogs this way anymore.

These days it seem people want more a bulldog type dog to chase and mix it up and hold a hog. Many of the old timers never wanted their dogs to lay teeth on the hog.

[tamsam]

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They needed to read this add before hunting. I am going to the gro store and ask if they have any of this meat. HAHAHAHA Sam

[Otter]

Trider, your youtube link brings up a tractor pull

[Txrider]

Originally Posted by Otter

Trider, your youtube link brings up a tractor pull

Sorry should be fixed now...

[TedH71]

Hounds don't make good hog dogs for several reasons with the plott hound being the sole exception. Hounds tend to bark on track..in other words, they bark (bay) while tracking down the hog therefore they cause the hunt to be extended and it's a waste of time. Once they get to see the hog, lots of hound breeds will quit except the plott hound. I like plotts but haven't hunted with them. There are some bloodlines of plotts that are silent on track..they're considered trashy hounds and are often shot to death or given away. THOSE are their own weight in gold because they have learned to keep silent in order to catch up to the hogs..meaning they're smarter than your average plott hound.....

Best hog hunting dogs are the cur dog breeds: catahoula, blackmouth curs, blue lacys...and in lots of cases, mountain curs (they can bay on track though...do your research..if momma and poppa dog barked on track...chances are the pups will do the same). Lots of people are starting to find out that they can use terriers to do hog dog work. Patterdales, Jagdterriers, and Jack russells are good for this kind of work. Perhaps working bloodlines of rat terriers will do.

Training hog dogs is a lot of work and often the best dogs will want to work early but don't let them til they're 1 year old and fully on their way to be more agile.

As for catch dogs, you can start the pit bulls on a small hog at 4 to 5 months old then hold them back til they're fully developed around 14 months of age with their teeth more set in. American bulldogs take a long time to develop...catching is started around 1 year old.

How does your friends train/work their hog dogs?