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08/12/10, 02:56 PM
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Does anyone hay with horses,
or at least horse drawn machinery??
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08/12/10, 02:58 PM
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I help my amish neighbors put up hay with their Belgians. We use IHC and JD 5' and 6' mowers, parallel bar hay rakes, and balers with 20 or 25 HP honda engines to power the baler.
There are still some balers powered with bull gears, but they are getting less and less each year.
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08/12/10, 04:14 PM
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Why do you ask? We have all the "stuff", just not the time to do it.
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08/12/10, 04:19 PM
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We don't hay now, pasture on limited acreage and buy our hay. Do have a sickle bar mower that used to be horse-drawn that's been converted to being pulled by a small tractor.
Up until I was in the 4th grade or so, we were still haying with horses on the ranch in Montana.
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08/13/10, 11:31 AM
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I don't hay or farm but when I was a kid in the 60's we hayed our fields with oxen.
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08/13/10, 12:11 PM
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We do,, well hubby does as well as rake,plow,disc,spread manure etc..we have pics up on our facebook fan page http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...a=7&ajaxpipe=1. Re you interested in doing it or do you do it as well?
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08/13/10, 06:14 PM
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Friend of mine does and I take my team to help out. We bale with the tractor, though, and this year the grass was too rank to cut with the horsedrawn mower. But ted, rake, and get the bales off the field with horses. When the weather co-operates, mowing is done with a team and a JD #9 on rubber. Some day he hopes to have the infrastructure to put up the hay loose, but that requires building a larger hay barn.
Here at my place I plan on building a covered sweep with an adjoining shed for a stationary baler. The hay I can make here is in small batches and I can bring it home loose and then bale it at home.
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08/13/10, 10:52 PM
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Whats a covered sweep JG. Is that like a beverslide? Im not sure right now, but I kinda thought a sweep rake was one with alotta wood fingers on it that went through the field and brought the hay in to the slide or bailer or stack
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08/15/10, 02:45 AM
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Oh, I was talking about a horse sweep... let's see, what else have I heard folks call them... a "go-round" or a "horsepower" where there's a couple of arms (or more) that you hitch your horse or teams to (depending on how heavily they are geared) and they walk a path that follows a circle. The arms drive gears which eventually runs a tumbling rod that provides PTO. I want to make one for two horses, with a perimeter fence and a roof, kinda like how I've seen them have the pony rides at the fair.
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08/15/10, 02:50 AM
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I've heard of that big rake called a sweep rake. Also a bull rake or a buck rake. Used to bring hay to a central point, like to the beaver slide, to make the haystack.
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08/15/10, 09:05 AM
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Dear your talking about a horse power. I saw a pic of one they just restored in, I think in Wash with 14 horses. I have only seen one live in my life, and it was running a small thresher. Then they have the ones on an incline ramp that take from 1 to 3 horses.
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08/15/10, 05:43 PM
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The inclined treadmill type I've only ever seen for a single. Are the multi-horse ones arranged abreast?
Horse terminology differs across the country. It can make it tricky to get on the same page. A "sweep" is the most common name for that device around here. I have seen a single-horse sweep running a saw. Pretty neat set-up for making firewood. Kid sat on the horse for a babysitter (worked for both critters, actually) while two men fed logs through the saw, cutting them into rounds to be split for firewood.
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08/15/10, 06:14 PM
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We did for a number of years. Sold the last Belgian team last fall. We can use them any time we want ... just don't have to feed them now.
This page contains links to pictures of various HD equipment Paul has restored and pictures of various HD farming 'stuff'
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08/16/10, 08:20 PM
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Hi FarmBillBoy-While we're on this subject......I have a question. Does anyone know what type of oil and volume goes in a McCormick No. 7 Mower?
Thanks a bushel!
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08/16/10, 08:28 PM
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USe gear oil. Ive never seen a #7 mower, I have a #9, and a MH mower. It has a dipstick.
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08/16/10, 08:33 PM
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If you look in Rural Hertiage this month, youll see an old time high wheeled rubber tired side rake, WITH ONE rear tail wheel. Ive seen rubber tired high wheeled side rake, the number of which u could count on one hand. The number of side rakes ive seen steele wheeled rakes u could count on both hands. Ive seen ONE rake that turned to the right, not to the left. Only saw one. Other than THAT one, which might have only had one tail wheel, if not, then ive never seen a 1 wheeled tail wheel on a high wheeled rake.
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08/16/10, 08:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FarmBoyBill
USe gear oil. Ive never seen a #7 mower, I have a #9, and a MH mower. It has a dipstick.
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Do you mean a 90W? It's a #7...regular gear (1927). It's got a filler cap on top the gear box but no dipstick.
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08/16/10, 09:34 PM
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If its that new, And Ive got to say I dont think that it is, as I think the #9 is the newest, and ive seen a #4 that was so old it had a wood lifting handle.
If I can think of it, ill go look at the 9 and see how to check it. Likely there the same way built as to check plugs ect.
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08/16/10, 10:45 PM
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FBB-sorry for the thread drift. I did some searching and I'm more confused than ever. On a Rural Heritage search, some guy says use a 10 wt foamless hoist oil, and another guy says SAE 20. I'll have to keep diggin'. LOL! Thanks.
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08/17/10, 07:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeWV
Hi FarmBillBoy-While we're on this subject......I have a question. Does anyone know what type of oil and volume goes in a McCormick No. 7 Mower?
Thanks a bushel!
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I'll ask Paul and get back to you. We have a McC #7
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