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GM Canola Found in the WILD
Found this at NPR
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...r---=129010499
GM Canola found in the wild, canola a plant hard to grow in the wild. Noticed was that companies like Monsanto need to notice because it CAN happen, where Monsanto has been suing people saying it CANNOT happen
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08/08/10, 10:58 AM
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OH Boy, here we go again.........
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08/08/10, 11:04 AM
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Monsanto is the spawn of satan.
There that should help move things along.
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08/08/10, 11:24 AM
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how about "The Sky Is Falling"?
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08/08/10, 11:29 AM
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I simply do NOT understand why so many people don't think this is a BIG DEAL!!
Keep hiding your heads in the sand folks!
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08/08/10, 11:40 AM
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Lots of people hate Monsanto but continue to buy their products. Few know what other companies Monsanto owns. If you use electricity, gas, or water you are contributing to a Monsanto company.
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08/08/10, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Emmy D
I simply do NOT understand why so many people don't think this is a BIG DEAL!!
Keep hiding your heads in the sand folks!
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It may very well be a big deal, but most people who are opposed to Monsanto are incapable of debating the topic in a rational manner. Case in point, feeling the need to capitalize the words "big deal".
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The story said they found the canola growing along side the road. That is not a big surprise the seed will leak out of a truck quite easily, your truck has to be sealed water tight not to leak any. My big question has always been rather or not it could cross with any of the wild mustard we have growing here. Canola is also very easily killed with 2-4d so I question how big of a threat it would be growing wild any way.
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Originally Posted by pancho
Lots of people hate Monsanto but continue to buy their products. Few know what other companies Monsanto owns. If you use electricity, gas, or water you are contributing to a Monsanto company.
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Simple search of Monsanto's site revealed the info pretty easy. 
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08/08/10, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Allen W
The story said they found the canola growing along side the road. That is not a big surprise the seed will leak out of a truck quite easily, your truck has to be sealed water tight not to leak any. My big question has always been rather or not it could cross with any of the wild mustard we have growing here. Canola is also very easily killed with 2-4d so I question how big of a threat it would be growing wild any way.
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In that case it was feral, not wild. I see feral corn along the road all the time here in the corn belt, but I've never seen it in the woods.
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In that case it was feral, not wild. I see feral corn along the road all the time here in the corn belt, but I've never seen it in the woods.
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Agreed, seen feral MJ growing as well, seems they're remnants of days gone by when farmers would plant for the military. 
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Simple search of Monsanto's site revealed the info pretty easy. |
Very few make the effort to do a simple search..
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Very few make the effort to do a simple search..
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and those folks I like to call sheep
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See now this is exactly what I was talking about in my thread about stuff being closed down. Tinknal, Paintboy and Arabian Knight jumped right into this thread being rude and snarky and that is not fair! Cabinfever will be forced to come in and close it because it is not productive when those of us who have an interest in it and can discuss it rationally will lose out once again. I plead with you if you don't like it stay out of the thread. You are doing nothing but trolling and that is not fair or right!
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08/08/10, 03:56 PM
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In response to the OP thanks for sharing this. One thing I have been really proud of as an Arkansan is seeing how much research the University of Arkansas does on farming. They have been an excellent source of info for us since we have lived here. I see them pop up all the time too in research articles.
This is what I find the most disturbing and why I have such a strong concern about GMO's:
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Researchers also found two plants that contained traits from multiple genetically modified varieties, suggesting that genetically modified plants are breeding in the wild.
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We have absolutely no idea what the long term ramifications of this stuff breeding indiscriminately with other GMO plants and wild plants. Who knows what will come out of the crosses?
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08/08/10, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Emmy D
I simply do NOT understand why so many people don't think this is a BIG DEAL!!
Keep hiding your heads in the sand folks!
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For those of us who don't follow this subject, could you explain why it is a big deal?
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Originally Posted by Patt
See now this is exactly what I was talking about in my thread about stuff being closed down. Tinknal, Paintboy and Arabian Knight jumped right into this thread being rude and snarky and that is not fair! Cabinfever will be forced to come in and close it because it is not productive when those of us who have an interest in it and can discuss it rationally will lose out once again. I plead with you if you don't like it stay out of the thread. You are doing nothing but trolling and that is not fair or right!
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So in other words if you agree with the OP you are a legitimate and concerned poster. If you think the OP is crying wolf you are a troll.
OK, now I get it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patt
In response to the OP thanks for sharing this. One thing I have been really proud of as an Arkansan is seeing how much research the University of Arkansas does on farming. They have been an excellent source of info for us since we have lived here. I see them pop up all the time too in research articles.
This is what I find the most disturbing and why I have such a strong concern about GMO's:
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Researchers also found two plants that contained traits from multiple genetically modified varieties, suggesting that genetically modified plants are breeding in the wild.
We have absolutely no idea what the long term ramifications of this stuff breeding indiscriminately with other GMO plants and wild plants. Who knows what will come out of the crosses?
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Do you have a link to the source of that quote?
JMHO, if those who are strongly opposed to GMO's would do some research for incidents of this happening (from University research) and post links to said incidents of this happening, It would go a long way in helping everyone who is concerned have a better understanding.
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Originally Posted by oneokie
Do you have a link to the source of that quote?
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It's in the OP's NPR link to the article, 2nd paragraph.
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The big deal, DJ is that genes are frequently interchanged between species. Bacteria or a virus is frequently the way it happens. Once a modified gene is released you don't know where it will end up. So far corporations. like Monsanto, claim that where ever their PATENTED gene show up, they own it. Lots of farmers have been extorted when a patented plant that they did not buy showed up on their land.
At one point a terminator gene was proposed. That meant that companies would sell seeds that would result in plants that were not fertile. Therefore no one could save seed to plant the next year. The farmer would have to buy the seed every year. The problem is, what happens when that gene gets passed from species to species? Over time more and more seed crops could become infertile. That's the ultimate nightmare.
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