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04/12/10, 07:07 PM
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1900 barn plans
I know things was smaller 110 yrs ago than they are now, along with people,. But wanted to get your ideas on these plans.
The barn is 24X32.
The milk stantion is one open space, for 2 cows. Theres a 2ft X5.8 manger, 5.6X5.8 standing area, 1ft X8 gutter, and 3.6X8 walkway in behind. The stall sets on the upper left, with the stantions faceing opposite the upper outside wall. if u lay the barn retangle longways running L to R, its on the upper L corner. I was taught to milk on the cows right side. If I had 2 cows tied up in that space, and me milking the inside one, it seems like id sure be between the wall and a tight space, if she wanted to do something else, AND if I was milking the outside one, and they had been out in the rain, that Id be a drowned rat by the time I got her finished, as I dont think I could let the inside one go till the outside one was milked and ready to go herself.
Then theres a 3ft X 8ft alleyway the length of the cow parlor that opens up into a open space that is 8ft8in X 12ft. There is a door at the other end of this alleyway that goes outside for the cows to go out from. Next to it , the alleyway, along the upper side wall, is 2 grain bins 5ft along the wall, and 4.6 deep. I assume you would have to fill these from the outside, as tho theres a walkway between them and the horse stalls, it is only, either 2 measurements they got side by side with a 1/2in seperateing them, but both sets of arrows ending up at the same place, 4ft, and 4.6in wide alleyway. It is 24ft long and ends up going outside at the R front. Next to the grain bins, is a corn crib, its 4.6 X 12ft long. It runs from the bins to the R corner of the barn. 4/6 seems like a pretty narrow spaceing to have to swing a schovel and mount a corn sheller in.
Now, on the opposite side of that 4.6/4ft alleyway is 4 horse stalls. They are 5ft wide, and 14ft long, with a 2ft manger. The divider boards are 6ft long. These open up, at the lower left corner of the barn into that open area I spoke of earlier.
Above this is a hay mow The highth of the lower wall is 7.6, then a 6in for the hay floor, and then 4ft sidewalls in the hayloft area. I assume theres a hay bay, or drop bay over the open part below
Well there ya have it. I thought this would be way harder than it was, and yet, being able to post a pic would have been so much easier, both on you as well as me, as If theres isnt alot of confusion in decipherin this, ill be confused.
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04/13/10, 12:06 AM
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If you had a question I missed it. If not you spent a lot of time trying to discribe somebodies drawing. It sounds like you didn't want the cows rubbibg up against you when you milk. Sell one cow and you'll get done twice as fast with room to spare.
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04/13/10, 06:21 AM
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Question was, what u thought of the spaceings in both the cows and the horse stalls, and the spaceings in the bins and corn crib.
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04/13/10, 06:24 AM
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Would the cow stalls be any better, space wise, as goat stantions.
If I could have got it printed on here, so people could have seen it, Maybe some would have tried to lay out better situations in this sized barn, which, I imagine would be just right for 3/4th of people in here.
Otyher than raising the hay mow sides at least double, it would sure do for me. Sure beat what I got lol NADA
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04/14/10, 05:47 PM
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with out looking at the plans them selfs I am having a little problem comparing the situation, but if you want more room make more room it may mean to alter some thing some where, or lay it our differently, yes goats would take up less space, If I was milking cows or and I milk my goats just one at a time.
on the having two in would be how they behave and there temperaments, and getting into a small space with them.
just because some one made a plan does not mean one can not change it.
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04/14/10, 08:03 PM
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Location: Southren Nova Scotia
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I'm not much at understanding dimensions or even diagrams. But the way we do things is to arrange the barn to make it as easy as possible to care for the animals and clean out the manure.
The bigger barn that was originally with our farm was tore down before we came here. We were left with a 24 x 30 ft carriage house. We had to remodel it to be a barn. First it had to be starightened. Then we poured a cement sills for a foundation. Next we poured half of the barn with a cement floor.After that we lowered the mow floor to allow to store more hay put in loose.
Then a wall with two doors was built to divide the lower barn in two sections. The half with the cement floor is used for what ever is needed. We have feed barrels stored there, a ladder to the mow, a milk stand for goats and a space to back a hay cart in the barn.
The other half of the barn we dug the floor out lower put in a drain and cement floor. We built two birthing pens in one end and a long feed trough along the wall that divides the barn. Then we built a platform so the goats step up on it to feed. That way they can poop in the gutter and lay on the platform and be clean.We keep sawdust or shavings in the gutter also.
There is one door along the dividing wall that opens to the feeding trough so we can put hay in the cribs. The other door opens to a small space by the crib and has a gate to enter the goat pen. There is a south facing barn door that slides open to let the goats out side into the pasture. There is also a east facing door that slides up to pitch manure out.
Years later we put a 12 x 24 ft addition on the barn with a shed roof.There we have a hen house in one end and two horse stalls and an extra pen along the north wall.Facing east is a sliding barn door. We have to step down two steps from the main barn and there is a door plus a gate to enter.If it is fine weather we just keep the gate closed to keep animals from coming into the main barn floor. In cold weather when the horse is inside we keep the door shut and hooked so the horse doesn't accidentally
get it open and come in where feed is stored and help himself.
Even with the addition we were short on space so added a lean-to three sided shed to store some horse drawn machienery. Then a few years ago my husband built a small work shop and hot house off of the main barn. He can go from hothouse to work shop to main barn floor to goat pens or to the horse barn without going outside. We have an old wood shed that is behind the house that needs to be torn down and replaced. I want Bill to attach the new wood shed to the house and hot house. That way we could go from the house to the wood shed to hot house and barns without going outdoors in the winter! All this building took us years to accomplish because we used all second hand materials to build or cut trees in the woods and had lumber sawed. We have it almost the way we want it now finally.
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04/14/10, 09:17 PM
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FHM Although it SEEMS like milking 2 goats would be less space than milking 2 jerseys, From front to back, of course, I agree with you, But from side to side, im not so sure.
Rose, whats the width of your CC, and how many chickens u keep there. Also, I take it you use the horses to farm with. Where do u keep their harness?
Will, family might not be able to live on one cow. We milked 2 when I was in high school, till I left home. And other than the cats and dog , we never gave any of it away to like chickens, or pigs. We used it, drank it, baked with it. Made butter with it.
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