Holy Cow! The price of stove and chimney pipe!

[Hank]

I ran into a deal on a small Franklin wood stove. It is the perfect size for our little cabin at the "homestead". Been a long time since I bought any stove or chimney pipe. Wow! If I go through the roof (as I did when I saw these prices) I am looking at over $200.00 in pipe and fittings, through the wall is over $300.00. I only paid $50.00 for the little stove.
Guess I've lived a sheltered life, didn't know things had gotten that expensive. Yea, I'm cheep, and proud of it!

Hank
http://www.doublemfarmandchuckwagon.webs.com

[HermitJohn]

People accuse me of living in the 1970s far as prices I want to pay. I say if they want me to live on the equivalent of 1970s wages then I want 1970s prices.

Probably cheapest way to go is to build your own masonary chimney with tile liner. Yep lot more work, but cost of materials is much lower and if you do good job, it will outlast you.

Anything new and made of mostly metal is now crazy priced. I am just hoping we dont go back to extreme prices for scrap as it encourages theft and means lot of perfectly good but old equipment gets scrapped when it has lot useful years left in it.

[Beeman]

What are you buying that is that cheap?

[Forerunner]

Funny you should mention scrap prices, John.
Scrap steel is on the way back up, and the cold and snow will only further serve to limit currently available supply.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the price top out near or above the last crazy spike a couple years ago.
I agree, there were thousands of older parts trucks and machines that were taken from us, whether by intent or luck of the draw.
Makes the resource pile out back that much more irreplaceable.
I think brick and tile masonry is the wave of the self-sufficient future.

[seedspreader]

Hank,

This won't be a post you want to read, but you would be better served selling you're little $50.00 Franklin to someone else.

It WAS an efficient upgrade from an open hearth fireplace... back when Franklin developed it, but it's woefully inefficient now.

I don't know your whole situation but I guarantee you if you think the pipe is expensive you're going to think it's VERY expensive running that little stove. You'll spend more than the couple of hundred bucks extra to buy a decent air-tight stove just in chainsaw oil/gas, or if you're buying wood vs. cutting it, after your first cord you burn, you'll be kicking yourself in the hindside.

Just my opinion.

Bob

[Nature Man]

Franklin stoves were popular back in the 1970's but did not produce much heat so people got rid of them for more efficent stoves. If it were me, investing that much money and time in new stove pipe, I would not use that type stove for heat. Two years ago I replaced my 20 year old stove pipe with new at a much greater cost than what you are spending. My 8" pipe went straight up from the stove (a Wonder Warm) through the roof.

Bill

[palani]

Do a search for rocket mass stove on this site. You can build the entire thing for less than $100 using COB.

[Hank]

Nature Man, I will not be "investing" that much money, and seedspreader I would never "sell my little Franklin stove". I should have been more clear in my OP.
I use these little stoves to cook on. This will be my 3rd. Use to cook on one in our hunting camp and on another at the tobacco barn back home. They are perfect for a little "cowboy cooking" when the weather is to bad to do it outside. I would never rely on one of these for my only heat. That's why I will not be spending that kind of money on pipe. It will be installed however, it's time for a little "southern ingenuity"!
Take that corporate America with your high prices!LOL

Hank
http://www.doublemfarmandchuckwagon.webs.com

[GingerN]

I talked to the only place in town Thursday that sells the pipes and I was told that they are 97.50 per 3' section. Yeesh, that is high. Last year it was80.00

[HermitJohn]

Originally Posted by Beeman

What are you buying that is that cheap?

Nothing new, thats for sure. But you can still live on a 70s era budget if you are thrifty about selectively chosing cast offs and stuff others consider scrap and making something useful out of it.

And greed at the grocery store is pushing me to keep expanding and improving my garden. My way of thinking is if people get too greedy they should be allowed to buy their own wares and not have any customers. Never want to reward greed as it is never ending.

[HermitJohn]

Originally Posted by Nature Man

Franklin stoves were popular back in the 1970's but did not produce much heat so people got rid of them for more efficent stoves. If it were me, investing that much money and time in new stove pipe, I would not use that type stove for heat. Two years ago I replaced my 20 year old stove pipe with new at a much greater cost than what you are spending. My 8" pipe went straight up from the stove (a Wonder Warm) through the roof.

Bill

I personally wouldnt care to heat with a non-airtight stove, but have a friend in another state that has heated for decades with cheap non-airtight box stove. She has good drawing chimney and is willing to baby sit the thing adding dry wood little by little to maintain the level of heat she wants. Works for her and has worked for lot of our ancestors in the past. Now if you think you are going to stuff a non-airtight with wood and let er rip, well at best you are going to get short blast of intense sauna heat then it will get cold quick.. At worst you will burn your house down.

I am still using a Sotz air tight barrel stove kit I bought in early eighties. I suspect its nearly as efficient as any simular size airtight stove made today especially since I got the optional auto draft. If it ever rusts into oblivion then wouldnt be too hard to weld up airtight of my own design, alas no replacement auto draft available anymore. Barrel stoves on market today are not airtight, Sotz was the only maker of such that I know about. Course if I ran onto a cheap large Jotul boxstove that hadnt been overfired and warped, I would consider it, they were nice stove, still are, just very pricey.

[ronbre]

tell me, we have 3 triple wall stainless steel chimneys..tall ones..yikes..i know..also had to install one when we redid inlaws house..so that was 4 we bought

[Old Vet]

Around here it costs about $150.00 for a 4 foot piece of triple wall, $25 for double wall, and 18 for 3feet of black stove pipe all 8 Inches.

[HermitJohn]

Originally Posted by Old Vet

and 18 for 3feet of black stove pipe all 8 Inches.

Ouch, for single wall black pipe, think I'd be salvaging some sheet metal off some old appliances and rolling my own at that price.

[GoldenCityMuse]

Should have been looking for stove pipe when it went on clearance last April/May. I know, that does not help you now.

But in the middle of winter, during a prolonged cold snap, you are going to pay premium price for any heating material.

In fact, now is a good time to be looking for fans and wall AC units. Think summer/fall items now.

[Nevada]

Originally Posted by Old Vet

Around here it costs about $150.00 for a 4 foot piece of triple wall, $25 for double wall, and 18 for 3feet of black stove pipe all 8 Inches.

That's more like it. Chimney pipe kits start at around $1500, and go up from there. Look at Lowes.

[Beeman]

http://lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=pr...e&N=4294890201

Here's what I used on the last chimney I installed. Lowes will discount the dented pipes if they have any and they had some when I needed them.
I'm as thrifty as the next guy but burning my house or shop down to save a few buscks isn't thrifty or smart.

[seedspreader]

Originally Posted by HermitJohn

Ouch, for single wall black pipe, think I'd be salvaging some sheet metal off some old appliances and rolling my own at that price.

I've heard you can always save money if you roll your own!

[Jennifer L.]

Don't forget to check Craig's list for stove pipe, too. I've seen it on the local one here more than once.

Jennifer

[Michael Kawalek]

Originally Posted by HermitJohn

Ouch, for single wall black pipe, think I'd be salvaging some sheet metal off some old appliances and rolling my own at that price.

I wouldn't even consider reusing old used pipe, and I think trying to make your own is suicidal. Remember, you're going to be lighting a fire inside and then going to bed. I go to sleep assured that my chimney is built to code with 2100F triple wall pipe. My cabin's piping cost me about 900$ per chimney. Think any insurance company is going to say OK to homemade pipe?