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12/23/09, 08:40 AM
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Lock bumping
Just picked this up on another forum.. Thought I'd share: http://www.lockbumping.org/
FWIW
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12/23/09, 09:33 AM
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That was an eye opener. Thanks
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12/23/09, 10:14 AM
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Just a variation of standard lockpicking. Most folks don't realize how easy it is to pick a lock. Back in the 1950s my grandfather not only had keys like this, but a couple keys that would open any Master padlock you could find. Medico has been a standard for years.
For security while you are home, a full pane storm door with no outside key works great. You can open the door to talk with someone without any fear of their suddenly reaching in and grabbing you or forcing their way in.
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12/23/09, 10:30 AM
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There was a company selling bump keys at Defcon this past summer. I thought about getting one just to have but it's not really my thing. They are pretty easy to use though.
Mike
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12/23/09, 10:31 AM
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Yep, this is really old hat. Iterestingly old hat. I've seen articles on a very similar bumping technique used on string type locks on log cabin doors and such.
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12/23/09, 11:31 AM
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As all of you already know, locks are only good for honest folks anyway.
And, if you're not around, no lock in the world will stop a determined thief. For that matter, nothing will stop a determined thief, if a human isn't around to stop them.
Picks, sledgehammers, portable tools, sawzalls, cutting torches, chainsaws... unstoppable.
Thumping a lock bumper, with some brass and lead... stoppable.
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12/23/09, 01:19 PM
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With a well placed kick someone broke into my townhouse in Phoenix that was locked with a deadbolt.
Moral is that the lock is no better than the door frame.
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12/23/09, 06:00 PM
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Thumping a lock bumper, with some brass and lead... stoppable.[/QUOTE]
Yep!
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12/24/09, 05:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf mom
With a well placed kick someone broke into my townhouse in Phoenix that was locked with a deadbolt.
Moral is that the lock is no better than the door frame.
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With a well placed kick someone broke into our farmhouse in Ontario that was locked with a deadbolt.
Moral is that the lock is no better than the door. The frame held, the steel door split apart.
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12/24/09, 06:16 AM
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This is certainly an eye opener. Locks are only good for slowing a thief down though. The way some houses are built now, all you need is a good razor knife to cut a hole through an outside wall. Many alarm systems are only as good as the conduit around your phone wire.
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12/24/09, 07:17 AM
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I've never understood all the fuss about bomb-proof doors and locks, when in most houses, all you have to do is break a window.
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12/24/09, 10:35 AM
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"I've never understood all the fuss about bomb-proof doors and locks, when in most houses, all you have to do is break a window. "
Path of lease resistance,,,right.
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12/24/09, 11:03 AM
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when I first read ab out this BUMP lock pick system.I went & EBAY had a lot for sale!
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12/24/09, 11:28 AM
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I agree that locks are for honest folks...dishonest ones can & will find a way in.
We got our security system that thwarted a break-in in our shop (when we weren't here)! This is an expense, we felt very worthwhile as we actually do take time off and go camping sometimes... While here, our dog is our 1st alarm system, security system our 2nd, and if anyone gets past that, they will contend with DH & I. Likely, would be rather surprised how well we could BOTH defend ourselves (accurate and wouldn't hesitate). Critical that both DH's AND the DW's are prepared. Responsible kids should be also.
It is also nice if you have nearby neighbors who watch out & will report what they see. We have a few who come by just to check on us sometimes if they don't see us or hear from us in a few days... When we go camping, we notify the ones we trust & that adds more security for us should any be messing around on our property without even breaking in... They check on our property & care for our critters...
On someone breaking in by "bumping...?" Set up a camera when you aren't there and you have undeniable proof of a break-in for the insurance company (if you have no security system). A friend of mine opted for a private alarm system instead of security (which notifies the police). In her case, the alarm itself has thwarted would be thieves. Also, she has a sensor that alerts her when any one enters her driveway... Sadly, she isn't prepared to do anything but dial 911 should an emergency develop.
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12/24/09, 11:53 AM
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like said locks are to keep honest people honest
lock bumping is kind of like the low tech version of raking or vibrating a lock
watch it takes a thief some time if it is still around it was a show i think on discovery channel
they do have an answer to the window problem they have a clear fillm much like what they put on auto windsheilds and it makes simply braking the window very hard to do it takes multiple hits from a hammer and then almost needs to be cut
when FIL door lock was acting up i showed him how easy it was to get in before I replaced the door nob and lock i had him lock the door i walked my truck grabbed my framing hammer and a 1/4 standard screw driver i walked back opened the screen door hit the nob once it broke off put he screw driver in and turned and was in
then i had to put the new lock on and he later got a dead bolt witch do do a better job of slowing one down especialy when keys on both sides but warning some fire inspectors say that is a big no no
but they say so many theives go with what is easy open doors and windows , keys left in the door, open garage doors why work hard for it
knowing all you neighbors is acctualy very valuable if you know them and thier familys and they know yours and you can call thier cell and say there's a truck parked infront of your house i don't recognize or maybe just take a digital pic or two if it is weird and you see they are not home. if it was nothing then they can be deleted.
depends on where you live and who you have for neighbors but it can be good.
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12/24/09, 03:31 PM
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My local ACE hardware replaced all the lock tumblers pins with new ones that resist bumping and picking at $2 per lock.
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