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Old 12/23/09, 08:22 AM
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Question Food Quality Corn ?

I am looking into puting my mill back to work & grind some corn meal for us to use also some other grains Maybe. where do I get food grade wheat or corn? I have looked & they seem to not exist. I am afraid that feed grains might have something in them thats bad for humans , But I can't imagine what would hurt us & not animals.Most say dont use feed corn .WHY?
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Old 12/23/09, 08:35 AM
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Grow your own sweet corn and let half the crop mature to dry on the stalk.
Makes the best bread and pancakes.

If you have Amish nearby, they can set you up with all the find grade small grains you could want.

Commercially grown feed corn would likely be genetically modified and highly pestisized, herbicized, and artificially fertilized.
Same goes with commercial wheat in most areas, except for the gmo part, but that's coming.

Best bet is always to grow your own, and grow it with compost.
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Old 12/23/09, 08:58 AM
 
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It's hard to find corn for grinding these days, we finally resorted to growing our own. Some people use popcorn, I personally am not fond of meal from popcorn.
Wheat for grinding can be found in lots of places. Health food stores, natural food co-ops, online from stores that sell bulk grains, probably even from amazon.
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Old 12/23/09, 09:22 AM
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Check out Lehman's (www.lehmans.com). They sell food grade corn in 6 pound jugs and 24 pound bucks. Of course, shipping will be extra.
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Old 12/23/09, 10:21 AM
 
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Reid's Yellow Dent is what most grow here for corn meal. I'm incertain of the white variety used. If RYD seed corn is cheaper by the 50 lb bag, I'd get some to grind & some to plant next year.
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Old 12/23/09, 11:07 AM
 
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Commercially grown feed corn would likely be genetically modified and highly pestisized, herbicized, and artificially fertilized.
Same goes with commercial wheat in most areas, except for the gmo part, but that's coming.
Front page article in the local paper last month, about an organic food producer here.

Some green folks put in a mini putt golf course, took city & private donations, put it on a 9 acre plot of wasteland by the river. Has a enviro theme. Oh we are so good for the environment....

Then they started growing a garden, organicly. Doing a coop, deliver a bag of greens a week, type of thing.

Didn't work so well, they made a few changes, and this year it went very well. Keeps that nasty chemicals out of the food chain, and real good for the environment.

Sounds good, right? Big story on how good they are for everyone. So much better than those dastardly farmers.

Here's the deal.

No one wanted the land they are on. It was a stockpiled dirt pile. We had bad river flooding in the mid 1990's here, had to sandbag the river. This dirt was used for emergency dike. After the flood, any dirt or sand used was considered hazardous. The dirt & some sand was returned to this site in dumptruck piles. It didn't settle down well, and is a bit low for building as it is.

They leveled it out, put the mini putt on it, then the gardens. The ground was so poor (it was yellow clay subsoil & sand...) that it didn't grow much that first year, and it held water.

So for the 2nd year, they had a consultant come in from miles away, and set up a drainage system. They had a local contractor come in & level the whole site with bulldozers. They had another consultant come in and put on 8 inches of topsoil & multch, brought in with dump trucks.

The 2nd year we were _very_ dry, so they had ok crops but not the best yields.

So this fall they had consultants come from 100 miles away & put in a sprinkler system to water the whole garden.

All of this work was subsidised by the city a bit, and at least 1/2 off from the consulting firms for advertising.

So, this is organic growing that happens around here. Start with a toxic dirt dump, level it all with bulldozers, haul in all the topsoil, put in lots of drainage and lots of watering equipment. Then proclaim yourself good for the enviornment with a small footprint on this earth.

I think it's just plain funny.

City down the road 25 miles has one of those coop gardens. Supposed to be all organic & good for everyone. No one notices it is downhill from the city works place - that used to store 'stuff' on this property the gardens now are on?????

I'd prefer the gmo corn, thank you, over that 'healthy' 'low-impact' 'chemical-free' stuff you get from the organic growers around here!


As to the original question, do you know any farmers in the area, do they grow corn or wheat where you live? Could probably work out a deal to harvest some corn yourself & pick the good stuff.

Remember sweet corn & yellow #2 dent corn are different; while some like ground sweet corn, it is not the 'normal' corn used for cornbread & the like. Be sure you get what it is you want.

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Old 12/23/09, 11:28 AM
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"Food grade" wheat and corn 'don't exist' because the market is almost non-existent... most folks get their wheat and corn already ground into meal or flour at the grocery stores.

Online sources are available... only problem is the shipping cost alone is usually more than the entire cost of the product, if bought locally. There are many buying groups here on HT that get bulk drop shipments from Waltons.com. Search around for Waltons on this site and you'll get hooked up.

I go to the local feed store for grains I can't grow or buy locally. Don't buy grains meant for planting, as they may have been treated for insects. Get feed grade... safe for animals (including humans). You may want to winnow out the grain, to remove dust, rock particles, husk, etc. Shouldn't take but a little while to do this.

If buying corn, make sure you have some kind of assurance that it doesn't contain mycotoxin or aflotoxin. If buying local its buyer beware... you don't have anything but someone's word that it's properly dried and free from 'toxins.

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Old 12/23/09, 11:30 AM
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Walton Wheat
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Old 12/23/09, 05:02 PM
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We can get local soft white wheat (best for pasta rather than bread), barley and rye directly from the growers here in the Willamette Valley, Oregon. I use it for the chickens and sheep. The wheat is 10 cents a pound by the ton, but that's a lot of pasta. Barley is $6.10/50 lbs.

Check your local Craigslist, or ask on there. That's where I found my contacts to begin with, and you might be amazed at what kind of response you get. Another option would be to check with a local feed mill that makes animal feed. They may have contacts, or be willing to sell you whole grain in smaller amounts than the growers, without shipping.

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Old 12/23/09, 05:11 PM
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Thanks everyone, I have a 8" letz mill run buy a gas engine to start the process off & make the kernels smaller . I have a hot lead on the mill & sifter for flower meal & grits. But this would not be worth much without anything safe to grind. Also pm me if any one has grits mill They run or want to sell
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