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Old 12/16/09, 11:14 AM
 
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55 gallon drums at rural king.....what was in them before....

I might have asked this before and maybe you folks could help. I am wanting to purchase a plastic 55 gallon drum from rural king to store water that was collected from the roof. This water would not be used for drinking but emergency use only for worse case scenarios.

The problem, I haven't got a clue what was in them before. Was it syrup or roundup?

It seems that these are food grade and once held....food.

Any help would be greatly appreciated....

By the way, there is no odor of chemical from these tanks....I smelled several times.

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Old 12/16/09, 01:17 PM
 
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Why not ask the store? No need to waste your time speculating....

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Old 12/16/09, 02:13 PM
 
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I did and even called rural king had office.

They sent me to a place called obrien barrels where they get them. Obrien told me they come from a variety of places but they weren't sure.

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Old 12/16/09, 02:14 PM
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We got some and they reeked of caramel - they contained caramel coating for a popcorn snack like Cracker Jacks.

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Your last name, Dollins, makes me think you may be related to someone who breeds well-known bloodline of hunting Plott hounds known as the Dollins Plotts. Are you related to those people?

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No sorry, I'm a part of the southern Illinois tribe.....

school teacher by trade...homesteader by choice and a hobby.....

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I am working on a new plan. Here was my intent. I want to collect rain water come early spring. I would venture say that the half side of my roof is around 1000 feet squared. I would like to collect rain water in the containers for emergency use. Mainly for toilet flushing. Again, mainly for emergency backup. I really do not know whats in the containers, one rural king manager thought along the lines of juices, which make sense. It would be hard for me to believe farm chemicals of some sort were contained in there, but I could be wrong.

However, I did go in and found they had 32 gallon trash cans that I could modify and possibly daisy chain is such a way so when one fills up, the other will collect the excess from the other one. I would set these up about a foot off the ground and install a spigot of some type. The trash cans are around 11 bucks and seem fairly sturdy. I just want to make sure that when they are full, they don't explode.

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Old 12/16/09, 07:37 PM
 
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The barrels would be more rugged, and covered.

So, does it matter what they had in them for flushing a toliet???? Rinse them out a time or 2, and should be good to go.

If you plan to water critters from them, then it's a little more important.

If you plan to water plants, then rinse them, and test the water in one small spot for a few waterings - the plant you water will let you know.

Sometimes the barrels will have old labels on them so you can tell what they held. Otherwise, if they don't know, and the supplier can't tell you, I'd guess all the rest of us are even less in the know.

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Old 12/16/09, 07:40 PM
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AS to the Trashcan, what my Husband calls the "red-neck" Rainwater Collection system, it works.

We haven't put them together, just leave them side by side and if they fill up during a rain, we pump them to the big IBCs for garden water.

I would venture to say that we have collected over that last two years, using this system (we have 12 trashcans) utilizing one side of our home around 16,000 to 18,000 gallons, Hubby keeps figures for that out in the shed, but we have captured a lot, I know that.

Only twice has he had to pump when the rains were long and the cans almost overflowing.

But yes, it does work, allows for multi purpose use of the thrash cans.

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I bet you would save some bucks if you looked around for local food processors, especially bottling plants. I work part time at a booze bottling plant. They let employees have barrels for free and sell them to the public for about 5 bucks. They hold syrups and flavorings.

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So your saying trash cans work?

Secondly, I did contact the local pepsi bottling company and they told me they don't sell/give them to the public anymore.

Again, I will use the plastic trash barrels from rural king.

I am open to more hints or suggestions or things you folks have done.....

thanks....

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Old 12/16/09, 10:32 PM
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Barrels that had hazardous items in them (be they farm chems or industrial solvents or what not) should have a stamp on them that markes them not for re-use. All the barrels that I have seen at Rural King have been food grade and are not the type used for hazmat. Say what you want about RK but they are not going to sell illegal barrels. Make sure they are maked food grade and wash them out well and you'll be fine. The ones I got last fall had grape juice in them (there were still labels on them) but were pretty dirty inside and needed a good cleaning. Also, they came without bungs but they had them in the plumbing department IIRC.

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Old 12/16/09, 10:58 PM
 
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tbone, I tend to agree with you....

But there is nothing stamped on these barrels. I smell nothing inside them.

I find it hard to believe that barrels such as this could be sold after carrying a bad chemical.

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If you put a little water in them and poured the water from one to the other and had it tested that should tell you if they are safe. good luck finding out. Sam

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Secondly, I did contact the local pepsi bottling company and they told me they don't sell/give them to the public anymore.

Again, I will use the plastic trash barrels from rural king.

I am open to more hints or suggestions or things you folks have done.....

thanks....
Give this some thought. What type of plastic are the trash barrels made from? As they are _not_ made for food, could they be made from a bad grade of plastic, that leaches? Could they be made from recycled plastic, perhaps made from chemical-carrying barrels?????

The food-grade barrels would _not_ have such types of plastic in them.

Do we know about the trash cans?????

Might want to consider what it is you are scared of, and what direction you are actually headed?
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Old 12/17/09, 03:39 AM
 
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Why dont you just get you some metal barrels with lids line them on the inside with heavy plastic or bisqueen paint the lids on top with a good enamel paint then you dont half to guess, Good Luck

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Old 12/17/09, 04:50 PM
 
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Went to a recycle place and they had a bunch. Some had cleanser from a dairy outfit, others had vanilla, others had phosphoric acid. I think the cleanser and the vanilla when properly cleaned out should be good.

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I buy Barrels from a Local Barrel Recycling Company to use for anchor's on Our tents . The last batch I bought contained in my opinion . A Hazardous Product ( Dr. Pepper Syrup )
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Old 12/18/09, 12:59 AM
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I know someone what has one of those 275-gallon white containers protected by the hollow pipe grid. He placed it at a back corner of his house towards his garden (which is maybe 2' lower from the bottom of it). Connect to the downspout so after the tank fills it drains to the ground. He waters his garden with it (soaking method) when rainfall permits. (When filled it would weight over one ton.)

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Old 12/18/09, 11:06 AM
 
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Went to a recycle place and they had a bunch. Some had cleanser from a dairy outfit, others had vanilla, others had phosphoric acid. I think the cleanser and the vanilla when properly cleaned out should be good.
So would the Phosphoric acid, read the label on a soda can, it's in there!

Since the phos acid is water soluable, it will clean easier than the other two.
The cleanser may foam [suds] alot and the vanilla may be a concentrate and will have an odor for a long time while the phos acid should dilute enough to come clean easier.

Washing tankers of cleaning compounds we would make the first rinse cold water, instead of the normal hot water, to keep the suds down, otherwise the whole washrack would be knee deep in suds...

We used steam to get the smells out of stainless steel tanks, the vanilla would come out better w/ steam but a homeowner won't have that.

I'd go w/ the phosphoric and tripple rinse w/ water. That should make them clean enough to store potable water!
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