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Old 12/08/09, 05:44 PM
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How to keep water pipe from slipping down well?

I need to replace my deep well jet pump, the jet is down in the well(60ft), the defunct pump is at the top of the well. I basically need to pull up the pipe a couple of feet and hack off my pump and install new unit/plumbing at the top of the well.

I got two black pvc pipes 1" and a 1 1/4" going thru the well cap, I can lift up the pipe, and somehow secure the pipe so it does not slide down into the well.

I thought about taking a bolt and two huge rubber washers and "wedging" it between the two pvc pipes and using hose clamps that will sit against the well cap, using several just in case it slips.

Anyone got better Ideas? At first I just figured I would just use two hose clamps on each pipe and the clamps will sit against the well cap, but I am concerned if this is enough support?
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Old 12/08/09, 05:53 PM
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Wrap a cord around the pipe and duct-tape it with a whole roll of duct tape so it won't come off. Hook the rope to a log-chain if you have one, then onto a truck or tractor and reverse it slowly. You can bring the pipe out to where you can replace the pump.
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Old 12/08/09, 06:02 PM
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Thank you.
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Old 12/08/09, 06:28 PM
 
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Buy a oldtime pump dog.

Dont know if it would work with PVC pipe tho. Its a tool that is bolted to a board. It has 2 sets of jaws. One, stationary, with a bolt behind it to adjust it in or out depending on the size of the pipe being raised. The other jaw moves up and down. You raise the one jaw and slip it around the pipe. As you raise the pipe, the one jaw raises slightly . When you have raised it to where you want it, as you let it drop an inch the jaw drops down also, against the pipe. That backs the pipe into the stationary V shaped jaws, and if the threads on the jaws are in good shape, it will hold the pipe. A tap on the handle of the up and down jaw helps keep it held againsty the pipe, I have one, but have never used it. BUT, Ive helped at home when I was a kid several times when dad would change the leathers in the cylinder. Once, when I was around 18, we had raised the pipe up to the next collar. I had just stood up straight when dad tapped the handle. The pipe was close to the bottom and the pipe was wet, and the jaws was old. The vibration caused the pipe to slide down. I had leather gloves on and they were wet, but I grabbed the pipe, and when my hands slid down to to the upper collar, I grabbed the pipe, and with the collar behind my hands I took it down to the pump dog and held it, If I hadnt I might have got my hands roughed up between the collar and the jaws.
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Old 12/08/09, 06:39 PM
 
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What I do is take 2 hose clamps of the correct size and put on each pipe. You will need 2 for the 1.25" pipe and 2 for the 1" pipe. Place them next to each other and tighten very snugly. This holds the pipes against the well cap when the pump is lowered. Place the clamps no more than 18" lower than where you plan on cutting the pump loose from the pipes. Use a socket to tighten the clamps.
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Old 12/08/09, 06:51 PM
 
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I don't know if this will be helpful but when changing out multiple long sections of galvanized water pipe we would use a bench vise on its side, supported with a simple frame made out of 2x4's just above the surface. This allowed us to clamp/hold the pipe from dropping down the well while connecting the next section of pipe.
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Old 12/08/09, 07:53 PM
 
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Vern,
Why not pull the pipe from the well and clean the jet and replace the foot valve and anything else that may need changed? While you have the pipe out attach the pump and replace everything as a whole.
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Old 12/08/09, 10:45 PM
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*sigh*

I really do not want to do that, this is a "backup" system now, since we replumbed everything into the city water... and decided that MAYBE I can get this pump rebuilt-economically, I was going to rebuild the pump, fix the electric motor and have hooked to the well house garden hose faucet.

I took the pump apart, leaving the pump housing(volute) attached to the plumbing, but as I took the pump apart I broke the thermoplastic diffuser.

The electric motor shaft does not turn freely, I got a broken diffuser(dealer will see if it is even available) and I need to buy a pricey pump rebuild kit......suddenly this rebuild is not economical, I might as well put on a new pump unit and plop over $320.

I really see no reason to pull up the pipe to work on the foot valve until it goes out.
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