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Old 10/15/09, 11:31 AM
 
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3 oulets not working in dining room.....

The house is 11 years old and is a manufactured. My wife plugged in the vacuum to the usual outlet. It worked then she shut it off and went back. Now the outlet does not work along with 2 others. However, the light above does still work. The breaker for that area reads dining room. When kicked, that light goes out.

Now, here is my theory, I cannot tackle till this evening. But, does this sound like there is a bad outlet or a loose wire. Could it have been the one with the vacuum plugged into it?
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Old 10/15/09, 11:57 AM
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That's one possibility.

Another possibility is that your dining room outlets are connected to a GFCI outlet (those are usually in wet areas and have a built-in circuit interrupter). Check to make sure your GFCI outlets are all working... if you find one tripped then reset it and chances are your dining room outlets will work again.

The last possibility I see is that the dining room outlets are connected to another circuit. You might consider checking the outlets in other nearby rooms to see if those are all working.

Good luck!
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Old 10/15/09, 12:03 PM
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We had to have our 1860's house rewired when we bought it. Our electrician put half of each room on different circuits that way if one circuit went out we would still have lights in the room. Everything is labeled so it is easy to see which breaker has shut off. In the kitchen and dining room this is great because the appliances are a heavy load. Check all the breakers and then call an electrician. Don't want to burn down the house. My daughter's house was poorly wired and when a breaker went there was a small unseen fire behind the wall that was not found until the electrician came and investigated. We were so lucky there wasn't a major fire in the middle of the night.
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Welcome to MH living!! Are any of the breakers tripped? They tend to combine a bunch of plugs/lights in different rooms on one breaker. The other possibility is that it's hooked into your outside outlet and it has gone bad. We had one that did that every time it rained or was super humid outside. It made it so that the bathroom outlets would not work, but the lights worked just fine.
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Old 10/15/09, 12:09 PM
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Ditto on calling an electrician. They have the equipment to find the problem and to check for others before it's a conflagration.
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Old 10/15/09, 12:14 PM
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That's one possibility.

Another possibility is that your dining room outlets are connected to a GFCI outlet (those are usually in wet areas and have a built-in circuit interrupter). Check to make sure your GFCI outlets are all working... if you find one tripped then reset it and chances are your dining room outlets will work again.

The last possibility I see is that the dining room outlets are connected to another circuit. You might consider checking the outlets in other nearby rooms to see if those are all working.

Good luck!
This would be my first check as it is a common problem. I have seen multi bathrooms plus kitchen and other things all tied into the same GFCI. Suck they do it that way but they do.
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Interesting find......my wife has a fluke tester and

when she plugs it into the outlet, it lights up on the hot side while causing the other 2 to work as well. Sounds like that is my culprit. I am sure that is a backstab outlet. I will replace it with a regular one...hopefully, theres enough wire to pull out.....

BTW, there is no GFCI on this series.....
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Old 10/15/09, 01:17 PM
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I never trust labels on breaker boxes. A meter works best for determining whether a circuit has current or not.

Good example--neighbor started tearing out his basement walls, wiring, etc. in order to redo it properly. Checked a circuit with a meter I had loaned him yet when he cut into a wire he got zapped. 10-3 carrying two circuits and wired to two breakers. When using a meter check everything, not just some. Not real common but it is done.

Many times lights in a room are on one circuit while the plug-ins are on another. Also a plug-in might be on the circuit of an adjoining room. Labels mean little, check all breakers.
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Old 10/15/09, 01:50 PM
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Since the breaker has been covered let me toss this in. I lost a couple of outlets one time and I discovered the problem was a broken wire on an 'upstream' outlet. So if the breaker isn't popped you can pull the covers on other outlets and see if you have a broken wire.
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Your circuit is wired parallel which is easier, but then you end up with the problem you have. One of the plug receptacles is bad and needs to be replaced or there's a wire loose. You'll need to check them to find it.

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Old 10/15/09, 02:04 PM
 
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Good luck finding a electrician that will come out. Around here if you mention mobile or modular the electricians run the other way.

But to let you know, a cuz of mine was having problems just like yours. His Dining plug-in's just all of a sudden quit working in his modelur. He had 2 or 3 electricians come out and none of them could figure it out. He finally ran into a guy who use to work in a plant that built them and the guy told him to remove the skirting at the end of the home and look for a junction box. Sure enough there was a big juction box under the skirting with several circuits in it that connected one half of the trailer circuits to the other half's circuits. They found one circuit that had come lose under the wire cap. When the twisted it back together his dinning plugs worked.
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Old 10/15/09, 05:39 PM
 
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Fixed it.....

I got home and noticed that the hot wire was somewhat black and burnt. The screw was slightly loose. So I just went ahead and replaced the whole outlet and snipped the black burnt wire back a tad.....thanks folks for you responses.....
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Old 10/15/09, 06:39 PM
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if it is a new enough home it is likely they are all tied into a ground fault circuit breaker on one of the outlets..so look for a nearby outlet in line with it between there and the breaker box and push the ground fault buttons a few times and see if it begins to work..we had that happen in our 7 year old doublewide
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Old 10/15/09, 06:48 PM
 
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exactly what you found, a bad outlet, fire waiting to happen My freezer went out and I was convinced it was the freezer since the outlet was checked. Repairman came out and checked the outlet also and it checked Ok but when he started looking into what could be wrong with the freezer all of a sudden it came back on. The outlet WAS bad. He warned me it could cause a fire by shorting out so I had a friend replaced the outlet. No more problems
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