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09/13/09, 09:39 PM
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Abundant yield
It is that time of year again that I have to share my favorite yielding plant. It is a variety of muscadine known as a scuppernong. Native to North Carolina and a no or low maintenance plant that rewards year after year.
To give any idea of the size of the vine here is the main stem beside a 2 inch diameter pipe
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09/13/09, 09:49 PM
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Ahh Muscadine wine it is a favorite with me. It is a sweet wine with a great flavior.
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My favorite dessert wine is scuppernong wine from Duplin county. I have a muscadine vine in my back yard that needs a serious cleaning out of weeds. I just noticed ours are coming out finally. I prefer them in wine rather than eating (or jelly). Ours are green so they must be muscadine. What do you do with yours?
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09/13/09, 10:04 PM
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Kelly,
As you can tell this is a very large vine (actually I have 2 vines) and they share a large pinwheellike arbor I made. Over the years as the yield has increased I have given various people permission to eat all they can but not the right to pick and take away. Most of the folks know when the grapes will ripen and just show up or will call and inquire. This allows everyone the opportunity to enjoy the grapes. As for me, I like to stand under the vine and pig out.
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We love scuppernong and muscadine. We've always considered them separate varieties. The scuppernongs are light colored and the muscadine dark. Just bought two bottles of scuppernong cider at a craft fair yesterday. Delicious! The guy had everything from that to blackberry, apple, and strawberry. Said it is a family business. They grow everything themselves and make the cider.
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Mmm, that cider sounds good. I'm not much for wine - tastes like rotten fruit to me, but I love juices and cider. I've never tasted a muscadine or scuppernong grape, either one. They don't seem to grow here.
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09/14/09, 07:54 AM
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For those interested in the history of the grape and possibly a source for obtaining vines I suggest reading here http://www.isons.com/muscadine_grape.htm . Other than obtaining vines from these good folks I have no connection with their enterprise.
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Mmm, that cider sounds good. I'm not much for wine - tastes like rotten fruit to me, but I love juices and cider. I've never tasted a muscadine or scuppernong grape, either one. They don't seem to grow here.
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Post winery in Arkansas makes muscadine wine either red or white and they are both good.
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09/14/09, 07:26 PM
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we have them growing wild, when we can beat the dear to them we love them.
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For those interested in the history of the grape and possibly a source for obtaining vines I suggest reading hear http://www.isons.com/muscadine_grape.htm . Other than obtaining vines from these good folks I have no connection with their enterprise. |
Thats where I got my vines.I had never heard about the mother vine on Roanoke Island, until I read it in their article, either on the web or in the catalog.My vines are five years old and really bearing heavy loads of grapes.
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Will they grow in Zone 4?
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09/15/09, 04:57 AM
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Not according to this 7-10 http://www.isons.com/muscadines.htm . There may be other varities somewhere that would,but I'm not sure.eb
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09/15/09, 08:05 AM
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How long has that vine been growing agmantoo? Would you suggest attempting to grow the vine outside of the Carolinas? (Maryland in my case) Does it draw stinging animals such as bees/wasps?
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09/15/09, 08:27 AM
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Prismseed,
Muscadines will grow from zone 7 to zone 10. The vine in the photo has never been watered other than by rain and it produces year after year. It was planted approximately 17 years. No insecticide has ever been applied or needed! Wasp will work the vine more so when the fruit have over ripened. The fruit have a lot of sugar. As I mentioned the trellis is made like a pinwheel using 6 inch and 2 inch schedule 40 pipe. A guess is that the trellis must be in the 24 to 30 ft diameter range. I made the trellis and got a lot of ribbing when I planted the little bare rooted plant that was roughly 12 to 14 inches long.
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well, now we want to see the trellis... 
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Here is the trellis. I have not mowed under the trellis as my riding mower will not go under it. The trellis was made to be low enough that children can reach the grapes and yet permit an adult to stand without their head in the vine. Real small kids have to stand on a box. What encouraged me to build the trellis was childhood memories of visiting a farm where we were allowed to eat all the grapes we wanted.
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Beautiful.
Thanks for sharing.
Every child should get the chance to glut themselves sick on fresh sweet fruit.
There is nothing like it. My own boys have happy memories of a certain peach tree that we used to live near. It was a sole survivor of an ancient abandoned orchard. Even 800 miles away and 5 years later, we wonder if anyone else has found that tree, besides the bears.
My little peach tree here is planted in that memory.
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Lovely!
And thank you Eddie
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We have discovered them all over our land up in NC....I mean EVERYWHERE.
Unfortunately we do not like the taste...
That is a pretty impressive arbor you have there.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EDDIE BUCK
Thats where I got my vines.I had never heard about the mother vine on Roanoke Island, until I read it in their article, either on the web or in the catalog.My vines are five years old and really bearing heavy loads of grapes.
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roanoke. there's some history there
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