Planning For H1N1 Flu Pandemic

[YuccaFlatsRanch]

I doubt I will be getting the Swine Flu Shots (yes shots - both of them), and therefore will need to be able to subsist on our homestead for a month or two without going to town FOR ANY REASON. My wife will probably go stark raving mad, but for me it's not too hard. We have the capability of storing enough food, milk, fuel to easily last us that amount of time. We live in the country-ish, with virtually no children who have to go to school in the area, and we can plan Doctor visits, etc to happen this summer BEFORE the flu gets going. We can stockpile enough required meds by refilling prescriptions just before fall. The people at church are just going to have to get along without us.

[7thswan]

I haven't seen anything that implicates that the Swine Flu will be bad, other than the scare media. Now as far as the gooberment mandateing forced injections, the'll have to shoot me.

[AngieM2]

Yep, as WIHH said, this is being/has been discussed down in Survival forum.

We don't bite (much) and the tin foil hats are decorated nicely so as not to scare the new persons coming down to see if we have some information that might just help YOU out.

Welcome mat is out.
Angie

[Windy in Kansas]

Originally Posted by 7thswan

I haven't seen anything that implicates that the Swine Flu will be bad, other than the scare media.

522 U.S. deaths have already occurred. That doesn't make it seem that bad?
I realize that any flu brings death, but this one is really just getting started with schools having just begun, etc. CDC site for flu: http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/

Checklist for preparations. http://foxyurl.com/sAW
http://www.pandemicflu.gov/

The potential certainly frightens me as my daughter and SIL both work in schools, and my grandsons go to a day care. I'm always called to look after them when they can't go due to illness. Nope, not looking forward to this winter at all.

[uyk7]

I haven't seen anything that implicates that the Swine Flu will be bad, other than the scare media.

Not just the media, the government is pushing the panic button also. I'm also pretty sure that the vaccine makers are hyping their vaccines (regardless if needed or not).

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[7thswan]

They haven't even finished testing the vaccine. I should have Googled how many deaths occure every year from the regular Flu. Just this morning on another site they were talking about the 37,000+ supposly dieing each year to pump up the Fear. I had the Swine Flu in 1976, was sick as a dog for 2 weeks. They were giving out vacines that were causing all kinds of problems. My Ex and I were even afraid to go to the Dr. due to the mess it all was. I simply am NOT going to trust this Goverment.Nor is my DH and he is very ill.

[Runestone]

I just checked on a Cnd. site for flu-related deaths annually. This is the 'run of the mill' flu that happens every year. The Canadian estimate is 1,500-2,000 annually. We have a population of about 35,000,000. So the percentage is 0.005% of the population will die from flu.
In 2005, 67,000 Canadians died of cancer....That's 0.2% of the population. This is one reason I'm not getting to stressed out about H1N1....

[Pouncer]

Another good resource is:

www.flutrackers.com

Probably the most comprehensive forum on world wide flu's I know about. There are also some excellent prep lists there as well. BTW this website gets posts from all over the world, many from medical professionals.

[Bearfootfarm]

522 U.S. deaths have already occurred. That doesn't make it seem that bad?

Not to me. It's not CERTAIN the flu was the ONLY cause of death in some of these cases, and it's no more deadly than most other strains of flu.
The biggest difference I've seen in it is the MEDIA hype it's getting

[ChristyACB]

I suppose I'm more concerned because pregnant or recently pregnant women seem to fare far worse than others. My sister is due in 2 weeks and we do have 2 kids in high school as well as me working. We have two houses now but I'm seriously considering leaving her with the baby in the one house and taking the kids full time to my house for a while. But, I feel mean if not there to help. Trying to work out a happy medium but it is a worry.

[Jennifer L.]

What's the problem with hype from the media? More people will be prepared for it, even if they are only washing their hands more, and a lot of people will prep for it including laying in some food and meds that they wouldn't normally do.

Jennifer

[Pink_Carnation]

The problem is the media is crying wolf...just like it did with bird flu. At some point people will stop listening or worse come up with more rules and regulations to protect us from this threat.

Deaths and Mortality
(Data are for the U.S.)



•Number of deaths: 2,426,264
•Death rate: 810.4 deaths per 100,000 population
•Life expectancy: 77. 7years
•Infant Mortality rate: 6.69 deaths per 1,000 live births
Number of deaths for leading causes of death:
•Heart disease: 631,636
•Cancer: 559,888
•Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 137,119
•Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 124,583
•Accidents (unintentional injuries): 121,599
•Diabetes: 72,449
•Alzheimer's disease: 72,432
•Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,326
•Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 45,344
•Septicemia: 34,234
Source: Deaths: Final Data for 2006, Tables B, D, 7, 30


This list came from the CDC site ...so yeah 500-600 deaths is still really low. It might get worse this winter or it might not and I think it is good to be prepared but I am not planning on staying home the whole time just because I might get it.

[Sara K]

Just a quick thought on storing gas.....

We have generators and small engines (rotortillers, chainsaws, etc) that we use gas for. With the ethanol in the gas now it doesn't last AT ALL. We had the worst problem getting anything at all to run until someone told us to buy higher grade gas and use it up quickly. Everything ran great using that advice.

You might want to make sure the gas you are storing will not have the same issues, we've still had issues when we forget to use it up within a week or so which means it's not a temporary issue around here.

I don't know if stabilizers or other precautions could be taken but make sure the gas will store well if you are depending on it.

Sara

[uyk7]

I just got this in an email. Quite interesting:

NaturalNews.com editor Mike Adams reported on August 5 that the patent protecting the swine flu vaccine states that "ingredients used in the vaccine are derived from the kidneys of African Green Monkeys who are first infected with the virus, then allowed to fester the disease, and then are killed so that their diseased organs can be used to make vaccine ingredients." Adams also documented that the patent is held by the National Institutes of Health and a large military defense contractor, DynCorp. DynCorp, Adams says, is contracted by the US government to patrol the US/Mexico border, near where the first H1N1 swine flu virus was originally detected.

Remember Dyncorp? They were the one's having sex with children in Afghanistan. Real classy company.


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[homesteadforty]

I just read today that experts are predicting 30,000 deaths in the U.S. from H1N1. Considering that there are roughly 43,000 vehicle related deaths each year (and I haven't felt the need to ride around in a tank to prevent that), I don't feel any particular threat from H1N1.

I'll be a little more cautious (wash hands, stay away from sick people, etc.) but I'm not going to stay home any more than usual nor do I feel a need to "prepare" any more than usual.

[PrettyPaisley]

36,000 people die in the US each year from the regular flu. That 90,000 figure that is being spread by the media came from a worst case scenario study the gov't did for a random pandemic. A guy from the CDC was talking about this on the local radio today. These are not CDC numbers the media is spreading.

That said, I'm pregnant and due in mid-November. I also have asthma though it's well controlled with meds. My bigger concerns are how I will manage to circumvent a zealous OB and asthma doctor (though I will tell them both the other gave me the vaccine if I have to) and keep a toddler and newborn healthy whilst having school aged step-kids over twice weekly. Lots of homemade chicken soup will be consumed at my house this upcoming flu season.

[ldc]

On the local radio this morning here in Louisiana, it was announced that there have been 20,000 cases in state so far. Last week, the first death due to H1N1 was reported. I was pretty surprised about the 20,000 cases, as most municipalities are no longer testing! However, this is a very unusual time of year to have flu at all; local temps in the 90's. ldc

[coup]

i have tried hiding from other flu's and it doesn't work...may work for you but it just a matter of time for me........

[mellowguy]

Originally Posted by PrettyPaisley

36,000 people die in the US each year from the regular flu. That 90,000 figure that is being spread by the media came from a worst case scenario study the gov't did for a random pandemic. A guy from the CDC was talking about this on the local radio today. These are not CDC numbers the media is spreading.

That's right. Wikipedia says:

Typically, in a year's normal two flu seasons (one per hemisphere), there are between three and five million cases of severe illness and up to 500,000 deaths worldwide, which by some definitions is a yearly influenza epidemic.[120] Although the incidence of influenza can vary widely between years, approximately 36,000 deaths and more than 200,000 hospitalizations are directly associated with influenza every year in the United States

If I remember well, the concern with H1N1 is that it kills a bigger percentage of those who get the virus, when compared to the common flu. I still think it's overblown, but media frenzy will make things as complicated as possible.

[Alice In TX/MO]

I may be tired of the media crying WOLF, but I'm not worrying about it.

Worrying won't change anything.

I'm already ready for "stuff" to happen. We live in a hurricane prone area.