antiquing furniture: question regarding the glaze....

[mldollins]

My understanding is that you paint the item you want ..example...antique white.

Then, after it dries, you paint on glaze and make sure you get into all the corners and then wipe off. The more you wipe, the more you remove the dark antique look.

But, when I called Menards, they told me that the only glaze they know of is what is mixed with other paint.

So, did I miss something here? The books all say to paint on glaze. I thought the glaze was a stand alone product and not something to be mixed.

Help...

thanks

[cathleenc]

I 'think' you mix the glaze into the paint you want to thin it out - more glaze added = thinner/more translucent paint.

I bet you can find this on www.marthastewart.com .

quickly found this on martha's site: After the base paint is dry, he prepares the glaze. To achieve a glossy, translucent finish, he mixes artist's oil colors (powdered pigments ground in linseed or poppy-seed oil) with an oil-base satin varnish. He chooses the natural tones of raw umber, yellow ochre, and burnt sienna to match the bamboo. He then adds a bit of commercial glazing liquid. Since the base color is dry, Mark tests the color of the glaze right on the surface of the wicker, wiping it off before it dries. He adjusts the pigments until he is satisfied with the color.

[Cabin Fever]

When WIHH antiques a piece of painted furniture, she'll do the following:

1. Paint it
2. Sand the paint off of the edges and around knobs and such...areas where the piece would normally wear.
3. Beat it with a chain
4. Apply a dark stain and wipe it off.
5. Fly speck the piece
6. Seal it

I think I got this right....if not, she'll chime in. As far as I know, she's never used "glaze" just oil base stain.

[majik]

WIHH and Cabin Fever, can I ask about your walls and ceilings? We recently put up 2 ceilings of similar looking material and are trying to figure out how to seal that? Did you do anything to it?

[mldollins]

It obviously seals. But, my understanding is that you are supposed to wipe it off. Did you do that here?

[Cabin Fever]

Originally Posted by majik

WIHH and Cabin Fever, can I ask about your walls and ceilings? We recently put up 2 ceilings of similar looking material and are trying to figure out how to seal that? Did you do anything to it?

The ceiling pine panelling was sealed before they were nailed up. The pine walls were sealed...or painted depending on the room...after placement.

[Cabin Fever]

Originally Posted by mldollins

It obviously seals. But, my understanding is that you are supposed to wipe it off. Did you do that here?

Yes, the oil stain was wiped off the cranberry-colored cabinent in the first photo and the glaze was wiped off the cabinents and island shown in the lower photos.

The purpose of glaze or stain over paint is to give the object some character. It makes it look like it's been used for a long time and been around for awhile. It almost makes it look like there is a film of grime on the object. There is a world of difference between a cabinent that is just painted and one that is painted and then glazed or stained over. One looks brand new the other looks vintage.

[majik]

Thanks. I don't think my husband will go for the idea of pulling the ceilings down to seal and then put them up, so we'll have to go with sealing one side. What did you use? Just a standard varathane?

[Cabin Fever]

Originally Posted by majik

Thanks. I don't think my husband will go for the idea of pulling the ceilings down to seal and then put them up, so we'll have to go with sealing one side. What did you use? Just a standard varathane?

Spray lacquer.

[majik]

Thanks!

[mldollins]

...you two(WIHH and CF) have been great and very helpful.....

[mldollins]

One more question WIHH,

I bought a walnut stain made by miniwax that has a sealer in it. Does this mean that I do not have to poly it when finished?

thanks

[Cabin Fever]

Originally Posted by mldollins

One more question WIHH,

I bought a walnut stain made by miniwax that has a sealer in it. Does this mean that I do not have to poly it when finished?

thanks

Do not use this type of stain if you're attempting to get antiquing results...this stain/sealer does not wipe off. It gets sticky in a hurry. Use only oil-based stain or glaze if you are wiping it off a painted surface.

I do use Minnwax stain/sealer (2 or 3 coats) when I make rustic furniture out of circular-sawn, rough cut wood....like the bench below:

[debgip]

Originally Posted by mldollins

My understanding is that you paint the item you want ..example...antique white.

Then, after it dries, you paint on glaze and make sure you get into all the corners and then wipe off. The more you wipe, the more you remove the dark antique look.

But, when I called Menards, they told me that the only glaze they know of is what is mixed with other paint.

So, did I miss something here? The books all say to paint on glaze. I thought the glaze was a stand alone product and not something to be mixed.

Help...

thanks

have you tried polyeurthene

[debgip]

polyurathane...i',m not sure of the spelling, but it is a glaze and a sealer

[mldollins]

Two last questions....

What stain do you use? Would dark walnut be too dark to do this?

Lastly, on your cabinet, did you use a cranberry paint with a dark stain?

Thanks....I will stop for now....

[Cabin Fever]

WIHH uses the darkest oil stain she can find. She paints it on..let's it sit a few minutes...and then wipes if off. Dark walnut is a good choice.

Yes, the cranberry cabinet was wiped over with a dark stain.

Here is another piece that WIHH did using the same technique (ie, cranberry paint and wiped off dark stain). This shelf unit was made out of an old door and recycled wood:

[Cabin Fever]

Originally Posted by debgip

polyurathane...i',m not sure of the spelling, but it is a glaze and a sealer

Geneerally when people speak of "polyurethane" they are speaking of a type of varnish. I suppose certain sealer/stains have a polyurethane base.

[mosepijo]

WIHH.... You painted the whole piece green? first and then cranbarb/rhuberry, and then the stain? You did a great job.. Love the colors. Is the black speckles stain?

[Cabin Fever]

No, the cabinet was a brand new blonde-colored piece. WIHH never painted it green (where did you get that idea?) She painted it cranberry, then dark oil stain, then wiped off the stain.

The black specks are tiny dots of black paint that she intentionally splattered on the piece to make it look like it has old worm holes and/or fly droppings. The specks are splattered on the piece by dipping an old tooth brush into black paint and then running your thumb over the brush bristles.