Why you SSS trespassing dogs

[Danaus29]

instead of talking to the owners.

Someone asked once why most of us recommend SSS instead of talking to the owners of wandering dogs. I'll give you my example.

Newcomers, used to living in New York, I guess you get to let your dogs roam free if you don't live in the city there. No dogs when they moved in, a couple months later they bring in 4 pitt/rottweiler mixes. In Franklin County, Ohio there is a law requiring pitt bulls or pitt bull mixes to be fenced or chained 24/7. These people put up a shabby shoddy fence. One dog jumps it all the time. So they took the shabby fence down. They tell me their dogs got in trouble in New York for attacking a black person. 2 dogs attacked the neighbor on the other side of them, those 2 get moved out but come back for visits. The one young man that lives in the house lets the dogs out to roam free every day. They were attacking the dogs on the other side of the creek while they are in their fenced yard. Animal control was out and talked with the owners. Dogs are now left to roam free early early in the morning. I put up a fence to keep my ducks from their yard. This morning the dogs broke down my fence. I went over to tell them and they send an 8, 7, and 4 year old child to talk to me. I told them I watched their dogs break down my fence and tear up my yard. "Oh not our dogs, can't be our dogs." I said they were their dogs, I saw them do it and I know it was their dogs. The young man wanted the 7 year old to go look at the fence damage but never spoke to me and mever came to the door.

What bothers me is not the cost of the post (which was smashed FLAT on the ground), the time I had to spend replacing the post and rehanging the fence, or even the dogs being in my yard. The problem is the attitude of the owners. They don't care. If it wasn't for the fact that we are only 300 feet from their house I would have shot the beasts in my yard. If they break the fence down again I will shoot them. Breaking a fence down is considered an act of aggression under Ohio and Franklin County law. Also pitt mixes are considered aggressive dogs under county law.

While some people are responsible dog owners 99% of the people who let their dogs roam free are just plain irresponsible jerks. SSS is the only thing that get through to them. If I wasn't afraid to grab the dogs I would grab them, chain them and turn them over to animal control so they couldn't get the stupid dogs back.

[Sawmill Jim]

Sounds like you have gone the extra mile already Came home once an had 4 big dogs in the chicken pen had ran them off before . One of them growled at the wife feathers everywhere had 4 shells in that 7mm

[deaconjim]

My response to "it can't be my dog" is: "Then you'll have no objection to my shooting it?"

[Danaus29]

Yes, but would you say that to a 4 year old? No question that I would have said that to the owner.

[deaconjim]

Originally Posted by Danaus29

Yes, but would you say that to a 4 year old? No question that I would have said that to the owner.

No, but the end result would be the same.

[Danaus29]

Dh is going to get up early and set waiting for them.

I don't care how many dogs someone has, as long as they stay where they belong.

[Jolly]

Know of a case where a man shot his neighbor's collie, while the collie was raiding his chicken yard. Killed the dog.

Owner didn't like it too much.

Six months later, the first gentleman's house burned down, along with his chicken coop.

Always be careful when you go shootin' what ain't yours. Best to let the law take care of it...

[Txsteader]

We have some neighbors (call them A) who refused to 'get it'. We've called the dog catcher on them after catching them trying to dig into the hen yard. They just paid the fine and brought 'em home.

After repeated confrontations with their pit bulls killing neighbor B's calves, neighbor B apparently decided to quit talking and take action. One day, he was on his tractor out in his pasture. Neighbors A were out in their yard. Dogs took off into the pasture and started barking at neighbor B on the tractor. He pulled out his pistol and shot both of 'em dead, right in front of neighbors A. Not a word was said by either party.

So.......neighbors A get some more pit bulls. The following year, they start terrorizing neighbor C's colts. Neighbor C, like neighbor B, tried repeatedly to warn them about letting their dogs run loose, but to no avail. It wasn't long before the sheriff started showing up. After the 2nd visit, the dogs stayed on chains....for awhile. When things had settled down, neighbors A started letting them run loose again. One day DH gets a call from neighbor A asking if he'd put their dogs down (they're convicted felons, can't own firearms). We'd heard the dogs yelping for days but didn't know why. Apparently, someone had poisoned them.

The new dogs (yep, more pit bulls) stay on a chain now. And things have been relatively peaceful.

Heh.

[tyusclan]

Originally Posted by Jolly

Know of a case where a man shot his neighbor's collie, while the collie was raiding his chicken yard. Killed the dog.

Owner didn't like it too much.

Six months later, the first gentleman's house burned down, along with his chicken coop.

Always be careful when you go shootin' what ain't yours. Best to let the law take care of it...

That's why there's 3 S's.


Shoot,

Shovel,

and the most important:

Shut up!

[TurnerHill]

Not sure I have an opinion on dogs.

I am sure I think going to war with your neighbors ain't smart.

For myself, I have stock. If a dog bothered the chickens, would I shoot him? No.

[diamondtim]

Originally Posted by Jolly

Know of a case where a man shot his neighbor's collie, while the collie was raiding his chicken yard. Killed the dog.

Owner didn't like it too much.

Six months later, the first gentleman's house burned down, along with his chicken coop.

Always be careful when you go shootin' what ain't yours. Best to let the law take care of it...

So they go from owning a nuisance dog (fines, pay for livestock and property damage and loss of dog) to felony arson and maybe attempted (or committed) murder? That's state prison and Bubba or Big Sally becomes your new lover. Guess who moves to the top of the suspect list. Criminal morons!

[65284]

Originally Posted by TurnerHill

Not sure I have an opinion on dogs.

I am sure I think going to war with your neighbors ain't smart.

For myself, I have stock. If a dog bothered the chickens, would I shoot him? No.

Welllllllll, do you think it smart to allow yourself to be intimidated, your family, if you have one, killed or mauled, your stock killed or injured?

Or do you think it smarter to either pay vet bills or keep replacing your stock, because some inconsiderate knot head neighbor won’t keep his dogs under control?

Or, maybe it would be better to just give up owning any livestock and restricting the outdoor activities of yourself, family, and/or friends on your own place, or even move, rather than "go to war" with said knot head?

Most people have a stopping point where they declare "enough is enough" and either demand something be done or do the deed themselves. I try to get along with everyone, but don't allow myself to be bullied. And a neighbor's rampaging dogs are a form of bullying.

The reason some people let their dogs to terrorize the neighborhood is because they are allowed to. If they are never asked for their cooperation and requested to confine their dogs they never will. Because they don’t have to, it’s been my experience they only become worse.

In most cases I think it best to approach the owner and calmly, politely attempt to resolve the problem, without loud, foaming at the mouth hissy fits, and certainly no threats.

If there is no genuine attempt by the owner to control the dogs there are discrete means to accomplish ends. Untold numbers of stock killing or people-aggressive dogs have been quietly disposed of. Likely the dogs are hitting everyone close, so absent any threats, the owner is left with only suspicion and to speculate about the disappearance.

[Old Vet]

If an owner refuses to keep his dogs up after they molest stock after he is toled to by a neighbor then SSS. But don't do anything until you tell the owner about it. He may not know about it. That doesn't mean tell a kid but the eldest Persian at the address.

[EDDIE BUCK]

Originally Posted by deaconjim

My response to "it can't be my dog" is: "Then you'll have no objection to my shooting it?"

BINGO, Or for the kids sake,have an Animal Control Officer present to hear,"Those aren't my dogs" My son an ACO picks up three or four roaming pit bulls every week.All the folks he talks to,like do you know whos dog this is or what house the dog is from,or is this your dog,the same answer,never seen that dog before,have no idea who it belongs to and it ain't mine.No one will own up because they don't want to foot the bill,should their dog cause any damage.

[JJ Grandits]

A good way to get rid of woodchucks is to take some old hardrolls and dip them in antifreeze. You have to be careful though. Other animals can get into it.

[Shygal]

Dont give any animals antifreeze. That is a horrible and painful way to die and no animal ever deserves a death like that. I dont care if its a mouse, please dont ever do anything like that.

[Hooligan]

Originally Posted by Old Vet

If an owner refuses to keep his dogs up after they molest stock after he is toled to by a neighbor then SSS. But don't do anything until you tell the owner about it. He may not know about it. That doesn't mean tell a kid but the eldest Persian at the address.

These right here are some real wise words. I hope some of you take the time to think about them

Someone asked once why most of us recommend SSS instead of talking to the owners of wandering dogs. I'll give you my example.

If anyone shot my dog for a first offense of "wandering" they would have to deal with me and it would not be good for anyone.

I won't mention the adjective I would use to describe a person that would sink that low.

[Ross]

Our new neighbor's dog showed up here, did no damage and was quite friendly I'm told. Soooooooo my wife took it home and explained quite straightforwardly (and honestly) that there is an active group of hunters controling coyotes by shooting them, and dogs often get mistaken for coyotes. Everyone stayed polite and I haven't seen it out of the yard again.

[catahoula]

The most entertaining threads on this site are without a doubt the "why I need to kill my neighbors dog" threads. Some really fine "Neighborly help and friendly advice"

A while back some gal posted about her border collie biting her little kids face. Not one person suggested she shoot her dog, yet if it were her neighbors dog that did it...

[ChristyACB]

As the owner of two old beagles who are walked only by leash, I fear the SSS model for a first time sighting of a dog. A couple of times my girl beagle has slipped her arms and head right out of the harness especially made to conform to a beagle's physique. Both times she ran off after a scent immediately.

Once I found her after she went into my neighbors doggie door, barked for the dog, and they both went out to play. I was horrified and embarrassed, but very glad that people weren't sss folks and just knew she wanted her buddy to come outside.

And truthfully, if anyone SSS'ed my dog, who wouldn't hurt a fly but will howl like a fool at a scent, there would be war. Total and uncompromising war. And I'd win too.

To avoid that, I'm sure to walk my dogs publicly and make sure everyone knows them and their strange beagleish ways, just in case one ever does get loose.