Humane Society of United States...

[agmantoo]

If you have time this may be an interesting read. An article that came out Monday by a TV report (WBS-TV) exposing this group has been successfully withdrawn(suppressed) from Google and You Tube by force by HSUS.
If you support this group, you need to make certain that you understand what your contributions are promoting.
http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...ew.cfm/oid/136

[foxtrapper]

Are you saying HSUS got something suppressed on Google and YouTube? Or that they have been suppressed on Google and YouTube?

[ladycat]

I already know what they are; they are in the same category as PETA.

[Pony]

I had them pegged years ago when I worked as a vet tech.

They use staged photos for their propaganda, and it hasn't changed in the years since.

The most obvious brochure photo I recall was of a bitch on an operating table for a spay. Just as is done with humans, her paws/legs were anchored with ties to keep them from flailing and getting into the surgeon's way.

The HSUS stated the the animal was "awake and alert" and that vivisection was being performed on her.

No way in the world was that animal awake. You could not get the sort of stretch out of an animal if its muscles were not completely relaxed.

When I inquired of them re: the photo (not telling them what I knew) they asserted that it was indeed as the brochure stated.

Liars.

I've had no use for them or their tactics since.

[jross]

Originally Posted by ladycat

I already know what they are; they are in the same category as PETA.

In fact they have combined forces with PETA. PETA euthanizes over 90 percent of the animals it "rescues". It is sad that those folks who work hard in the shelters for nothing get none of those millions. however Wayne Pacelle (HSUS) and Ingrid Newkirk (PETA)live very well.

[Madame]

Thanks for sharing this info. It's news to me.

[hiswife]

good info and lots of facts there, thanks for posting the link!

[arabian knight]

Originally Posted by ladycat

I already know what they are; they are in the same category as PETA.

You BET they are and not one thin penny will ever I give to them.

[ladycat]

This is about the ASPCA but it goes real good with this topic.

ABC News 20/20 Documentary "Cruelty to Owners"


Part 1



Part 2

[Tricky Grama]

I gave to them ONCE-when I was working I gave to many organizations & long long ago even gave to PETA once-b/4 all their radicallness was exposed. So STILL get junk mail from HSUS.

If ANYONE wants to donate to a very worthy animal cause please go to www.straydog.org

My favorite and such nice people.

Patty

[ChristyACB]

While I agree that the main HSUS does pull some publicity stunts please don't disparage or write off the regular everyday people who are running your local humane society or the aims of the branch itself. The average HS in your average American town is staffed by good and giving people who have nothing whatsoever to do with politics, lobbying or stunts. Instead, they just want animals in your community to have a fighting chance at a loving home.

If the HSUS isn't your cup of tea, great. Don't give to them. But your local shelter, often run by funds provided primarily by their own workers and volunteers, is not a bad and evil propaganda machine. It is just people, like us, trying to do their best. Give locally for your local Humane Society shelter. Adopt locally.

[Madame]

Originally Posted by ChristyACB

The average HS in your average American town is staffed by good and giving people who have nothing whatsoever to do with politics, lobbying or stunts. Instead, they just want animals in your community to have a fighting chance at a loving home.

your local shelter, often run by funds provided primarily by their own workers and volunteers. It is just people, like us, trying to do their best. Give locally for your local Humane Society shelter. Adopt locally.

Perhaps by giving food, towels for bedding, etc?

[Shazza]

Hi there...HSUS is very much discussed on forums here in Oz...permission to crosspost this would be greatly appreciated.

[yoopermom]

It was reported on the radio yesterday that this organization is going to "team" with Michael Vick now that he's out of jail since they're "both anti-dogfighting". Here's the first link I found, but I heard it on NPR.

http://www.hiphoprx.com/2009/05/20/n...umane-society/

And if you believe Vick's sincerity, I have some land to sell you...

Terri

[Pyrenees]

I have mixed feeling on HSUS...

They have done a tremendous amount of good, but then they go off the deepend with propogandist/extremist activities.

There was no organization that did more than HSUS during Hurricane Katrina. They processed, treated and coordinated the rehoming process (or reuniting with owners) for thousands of abandoned pets. I was involved in the periphery as a veterinarian...but have never officially joined the organization due to the extremism (especially anti-hunting).

[CountryWannabe]

Originally Posted by Pyrenees

There was no organization that did more than HSUS during Hurricane Katrina. They processed, treated and coordinated the rehoming process (or reuniting with owners) for thousands of abandoned pets.

I believe that they are still under investigation for the handling of the millions of dollars of donations they collected for the Katrina victims. As I hear it, a whole lot more went to their propaganda campaigns than to the care of the victims.

[Lazy J]

Originally Posted by Pyrenees

IThere was no organization that did more than HSUS during Hurricane Katrina. They processed, treated and coordinated the rehoming process (or reuniting with owners) for thousands of abandoned pets. I was involved in the periphery as a veterinarian...but have never officially joined the organization due to the extremism (especially anti-hunting).

Hitler built the Autobahn in Germany, which was a huge asset to the German people and a technological milestone, but that does not over come the evil he forced on the world.

The minor 'good' HSUS did during Katrina as a PR campaign does not over come the extremism and terrorism tactics nor the fact that HSUS wants to eliminate Animal Agriculture.

The bottomline is that HSUS is BAD news for Agriculture and Homesteading.

Jim

[ChristyACB]

Originally Posted by Lazy J

Hitler built the Autobahn in Germany, which was a huge asset to the German people and a technological milestone, but that does not over come the evil he forced on the world.

The minor 'good' HSUS did during Katrina as a PR campaign does not over come the extremism and terrorism tactics nor the fact that HSUS wants to eliminate Animal Agriculture.

The bottomline is that HSUS is BAD news for Agriculture and Homesteading.

Jim

Actually, that isn't true at all. LOCAL humane societies also do farm animal care for very low cost for those doing small scale animal raising for food. What they do locally has NOTHING to do with the main HSUS. Nothing. Many of them don't even follow the same charter. It is like saying all Animal Pounds in the US follow the exact model of the federal governments original development of pounds.

As far as I've ever known or been exposed to, HSUS is against massive feeder operations, CAFOs in particular. Not just for the animals in them, but for the effect on those in rural areas around them who wind up with problems with their locally grown animal agriculture.

There is a huge difference between a Pig CAFO and a person raising a hundred on a local farm just like there is a huge difference between a massive puppy mill and a backyard breeder.

I'm not sure why every single endeavor to aid animals and their people against massive agro business is considered so negatively by the very people who usually benefit from it.

[mooman]

Christy, just to clarify your post, It is not just that local humane societies don't follow charter of HSUS......

They are and always have been COMPLETELY SEPARATE ENTITIES. They took the name "Humane Society of the United States" specifically to try and trick people into donating to them (people think they are donating to their local humane society) They are in no way affiliated with local humane societies.

Local humane societies are against animal cruelty. They do no lobbying and have no "animal rights" type agenda. They are the good guys. It just seemed like you were trying to defend Local Humane Societies despite ties to HSUS, when those ties don't actually exist.

As far as I've ever known or been exposed to, HSUS is against massive feeder operations, CAFOs in particular. Not just for the animals in them, but for the effect on those in rural areas around them who wind up with problems with their locally grown animal agriculture.

There is a huge difference between a Pig CAFO and a person raising a hundred on a local farm just like there is a huge difference between a massive puppy mill and a backyard breeder.

I'm not sure why every single endeavor to aid animals and their people against massive agro business is considered so negatively by the very people who usually benefit from it.

I'm not disputing that the HSUS is against Big Agro Bussiness....They are, but their ultimate goal is not to "localize" the food supply or campaign for small scale sustainable agriculture. They're goal is to make meat sooooo expensive that people have no other choice than to go vegetarian.

They want to end ALL LIVESTOCK REARING. They are going after BIG Agro now, but when they are finished with them you and I will be squarely in their cross hairs.

[Pyrenees]

Originally Posted by Lazy J

Hitler built the Autobahn in Germany, which was a huge asset to the German people and a technological milestone, but that does not over come the evil he forced on the world.

The minor 'good' HSUS did during Katrina as a PR campaign does not over come the extremism and terrorism tactics nor the fact that HSUS wants to eliminate Animal Agriculture.

The bottomline is that HSUS is BAD news for Agriculture and Homesteading.

Jim

Interesting...

I thought I was doing a good dead with all the animals I treated pro bono under miserable conditions.

Now everyone knows I was really trying to shut down LazyJ's feed store, and generate PR.

I am not disagreeing with you regarding the damage HSUS is capable of doing which is why I never joined as a member and do not donate $$$.

But Hilter analogies (either direct or indirect) against people who are just trying to do good...are simply not good manners, either online or in person.