The PATH Project/750,000Volts going to go by

[Horse Fork Farm]

very very close to my house. I just can't believe it. There is a proposed path but a very large leeway either side of that proposed line. If it goes as planned I'll probably have to move out because no way am I raising my kids under that much power. Documented fully or not, it does cause cancers, and leukemia in children. Theres supposed to be a town meeting soon to discuss some of the options they are considering offering. Possibly buying out the people who would be directly underneath, and free electricity on the property for others.

Just wondering who else is staring down the barrel of this problem. Surely as many posters/ members as we have on here someone else must be in the same situation?? If so, what are your thoughts? Kathy

[Rick]

But listen to the commercials - it is for your own good, repeat it over and over.

Heartstrings.

Please forgive my levity, and know you are welcome to come live here and build Y'all a cabin, but we ain't got no "path" type 'lectricity round heeya.

Rick

[cfabe]

Why are you afraid of the power lines? Do you have any idea how much radiated energy and EMF they give off compared to, say, the monitor on your computer? Is it because the number is so big? Just think of it as 0.75MV instead. See now it's small, less than one. I agree it will affect property values in the area because of aesthetic concerns but I really don't believe it is a health concern. I certainly wouldn't have already decided you will need to move, that seems kind of drastic.

[Horse Fork Farm]

I remember vividly, living on base housing in Chas SC and seeing rows of empty houses under those same lines because the military knew what they could cause. Truly.

[Horse Fork Farm]

Rose,
Google Potomac Appalachian Transmission Highline. You'll find more info than you want to see including a section on maps. I think theres only 3 counties in Virginia affected. Hope your not in one of those!! It will run from John Amos power plant(just outside of Chas.) and end up in Maryland!

[empofuniv]

We have been staring this same type situation in the face for approx 2 yrs now.

Sempra Energy wants to build a high voltage line called the Power Link from Imperial County through San Diego County. They claim they are going to use clean solar energy.

BUT...there is only a test station solar power plant in Imperial County, but right across the border in Mexico SE owns a power plant that uses dirty coal.
The solar plant couldn't be brought on line for years, but the transmission of electricity from the Mexican plant, which has very lax regulation, would only be "temporary" according to them.

They proposed several different routes.

We got a letter asking permission for SE to go on the property we own in Ocotillo Wells CA (our weekend camping place) to do "testing". They'd bulldoze "as little as possible", could drill 4" holes as deep as 50', there was no mention of remediating or plugging the holes. There were other things too numerious for me to remember.

We denied permission. About 9 pm one night there was a knock on our door. We were served w legal papers that there was going to be a hearing and we were "invited" along w other property owners who had denied permission.

The hearing was in a town more than an hour away and I'd have to take time off work. When the judge gave SE permission to go onto working cattle ranches close to us and do their testing against the owners wishes I knew we didn't have a chance.

When we got copies of the maps one of the proposed routes went right inside the W boundary of our 20 acres w a 120' tower right in the middle of the 150 ft wide swath they were going to take by emient domain.

But what helped us is that they wanted to go through State Park land, including some that is designated as Wilderness area and we are approx a mile from the park boundary. The Sierra Club as well as many other groups came out against those plans, we staged massive letter writing campaigns to all elected officials & editors of every newspaper and newsletter around, every public hearing we packed w folks who asked to speak, we made video's, we did everything we could do. We did fund raisers to pay the legal fees. We even brought in elder members of Native American tribes whose land this would cross, they spoke against what they considered a defilement of their ancestral lands.

The Public Utilities Commission and the State Parks Commission both recommended against SE going through the park. It has been through the courts from low courts to high courts and back again.

Although they haven't started building it yet...this fight isn't over.

Get yourself together w like minded individuals and start this fight now. And it will take years. It takes dedicated hard core resistance, people willing to go on TV and go to city and town council meetings and every public hearing and be lucid, logical, articulate speakers.

I'm sorry this is so long, but it has been a subject near to my heart for almost 3 yrs now.

Pamela

[Horse Fork Farm]

Thanks Pam,
I wish you the best outcome possible. There are a lot of historical places here which may help.

cfabe- ask anyone who has worked any length of time for one of the electric utilities---ask them about health issues. Make sure to ask one who has been doing it for yearrs

AND--- I HAVEN'T decided to move based on something which hasn't happened yet.
However, if it were to cross directly over our house of course we would move. After all, even the PATH website admits to the claims of leukemia in children. Would you want to risk your babies health????

[Shygal]

Originally Posted by cfabe

Why are you afraid of the power lines? Do you have any idea how much radiated energy and EMF they give off compared to, say, the monitor on your computer? Is it because the number is so big? Just think of it as 0.75MV instead. See now it's small, less than one. I agree it will affect property values in the area because of aesthetic concerns but I really don't believe it is a health concern. I certainly wouldn't have already decided you will need to move, that seems kind of drastic.

When I was about 6 years old, Niagara Mohawk power came to our door one day and said that they would have to buy our house, because they were putting in high tension lines in the field next to our house, and we were too close to safely live there.
We had to leave the house, and build a new one a certain distance away, still on our property. They moved the house across the road and sold it to someone else.

They SAID it was too dangerous to live so close to them,t hat is why we had to move

[fordy]

Originally Posted by Heartstrings

very very close to my house. I just can't believe it. There is a proposed path but a very large leeway either side of that proposed line. If it goes as planned I'll probably have to move out because no way am I raising my kids under that much power. Documented fully or not, it does cause cancers, and leukemia in children. Theres supposed to be a town meeting soon to discuss some of the options they are considering offering. Possibly buying out the people who would be directly underneath, and free electricity on the property for others.

Just wondering who else is staring down the barrel of this problem. Surely as many posters/ members as we have on here someone else must be in the same situation?? If so, what are your thoughts? Kathy

..................In June of 1999 , I built a 5 wire , Bobwire fence , directly under a series of these 125 foot tall transmission towers . It was 11,000 feet long , and the fence bisected , exactly the distance between the 4 legs of each tower . A brother\sister was dividng inherited property and I contracted to build the fence . Anyway , this particular transmission line was about 336,000 thousand volts , the Magnetic field surrounding this power line extended all the way too the ground which was 125 feet or so . Now , one very humid morning I was stretching wire and I was constantly getting shocked by the wire , so my conclusion was that the wire was being subjected too an induced voltage from the field of the transmission line . It was too strong for me to work with so I simply left and came back the next , dry day . , fordy

[plowjockey]

We have a set of 230KV Lines that crosses part of our small property.

Rarely even notice that it is there. It was there when we moved in.

All of our neighbor kids (they live almost under it) seem as normal as neighbor kids can be. Our kid's acted strange even before we moved here.

Most everybody wants and needs electricity. They just want the power lines on someone else's peroperty.

Cell phones supposedly cause brain cancer, but 100's of millions of users do not get cancer.

Power lines supposedly cause many health problems, but millions lives under them with little problems.

IMO, they are not a health problem.

Either move, fight to have them elsewhere, or forget about them even being there. Otherwise, it will drive you nuts.

[Farmerwilly2]

Free electricity!!!!!!!!! Woo-Hoo!!!!!!!

[foxtrapper]

Originally Posted by Heartstrings

Just wondering who else is staring down the barrel of this problem. Surely as many posters/ members as we have on here someone else must be in the same situation?? If so, what are your thoughts? Kathy

Yep. Specifically with high voltage. Since you've already decided it causes cancer and that you're leaving because you will not live near it, there's not much to say.

[Beeman]

I guess the question is where are you going to go and what happens when they do something at the next location?

I live near a power plant and can see the transmission lines from the house, no big deal. No strange happenings. Of course just like food we know where our electricity comes from since we use it.

[Jim-mi]

Kathy . . you WILL go to each and every one of those meetings to find out your options.
Once their mind is made up to run that trans line they will go where ever they want.

Exposure to trans lines energy is a long term issue.

[ChristyACB]

There is some doubt about what power lines, specifically high power ones, and transfer stations can do. Yes, there are clusters of too much of one or two types of cancer that seem to have proximity to those things in common, but there are magnitudes more of those stations that don't have those clusters. I think there is some talk that it has more to do with materials that may have been used a while back in construction and what leeched into water supplies from other industry but I can't find anything recent in terms of definitive studies.

Deciding to move is a big one and there is no guarantee that somewhere down the road it won't happen anyplace you move. If you can fight and want to fight, great, but wanting to have power but never wanting any of the consequences of that power isn't always reasonable or possible.

[mnn2501]

The problem is that everyone wants power (or roads, or water or.....) but nobody wants them near them. I hate to say it but someone is going to end up with it in their backyard. There's too many people needing too many resources to stand still. You may not like it because its near you, but would you even be saying a word if it were 20 miles away? probably not.

[arabian knight]

Originally Posted by plowjockey

We have a set of 230KV Lines that crosses part of our small property.

Rarely even notice that it is there. It was there when we moved in.

All of our neighbor kids (they live almost under it) seem as normal as neighbor kids can be. Our kid's acted strange even before we moved here.

Most everybody wants and needs electricity. They just want the power lines on someone else's property.

Cell phones supposedly cause brain cancer, but 100's of millions of users do not get cancer.

Power lines supposedly cause many health problems, but millions lives under them with little problems.

IMO, they are not a health problem.

Either move, fight to have them elsewhere, or forget about them even being there. Otherwise, it will drive you nuts.

I agree, and as always this is a case of NIMBY. But it will be built in somebody's,, period, or do people want to live with brown outs black outs etc. As people use more and more electricity we need more and more high power transmission lines to carry that power. And there is no concrete evidence that they do harm.

[Horse Fork Farm]

deleted never mind---- not worth the effort. Thankful that God guides me even in something so insignificant as posting on a thread. Can't think of a single time I ever posted to a thread where I wasn't trying to be helpful or considerate.

Thank you if you were polite and tried to be helpful, Kathy

[Cindy in PA]

Originally Posted by arabian knight

I agree, and as always this is a case of NIMBY. But it will be built in somebody's,, period, or do people want to live with brown outs black outs etc. As people use more and more electricity we need more and more high power transmission lines to carry that power. And there is no concrete evidence that they do harm.

True everyone wants electricity, however our electricity used to be local until our fine government fostered competition & our local utility was bought several times and gobbled up by the fine utility at fault for the August 2003 blackout in NY City and other places. I am tired of getting garbage from NY and having things run through my state for the city of NY etc. Each state at least should be responsible for their own garbage and utilities. If the ones that use it or throw it away had to live with it, they may figure out that there is no "free lunch" in regards to our actions. They are running these lines from rural cheap coal areas to the cities and it stinks! As for blackouts or brownouts, don't worry more of them are coming, as utilities have down nothing but make high profits since deregulation and are waiting on the Feds to pay for all the line maintenance they have delayed for decades. My fine electricity supplier made record profits again last year, but is offering workers no raises for 4 years. I feel for you Heartstrings, but the government and utilities will do whatever they darn please.

[uyk7]

Never ceases to amaze me when people use an argument like this: Well, my kids (neigbor's kids, etc...) never had any problems so I don't think there is anything dangerous about (living under high voltage power lines, next to a dump site, taking that kind of medicine, etc...).

It only becomes a problem/issue when it is their kid that is hurt. Reminds me of the anti-Iraqi war mom that was always going after Bush. Where was she when the war first started? Why wasn't she concerned before her son was killed? Seems she agreed with the invasion (based upon her not complaining about it until after her son was killed) at first.


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