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Old 05/14/09, 09:44 AM
 
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Let's pretend -I am moving to Kentucky

There are two properties available in Kentucky. DH and I are interested in them both. We could pay cash for either. This would be property for our future retirement (10yrs away) at which time we just want to have a small garden, a few chickens, cut wood. Not knowing a whole lot about Kentucky I could use some help.

Pretend both properties were equally attractive...where would we be better off? Greenup County or Taylor County??

I know no one can really answer that question, but can someone give me the insider info on these two counties?

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Martha

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Old 05/14/09, 10:07 AM
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I don't know KY that well but I do know that my friend has a lovely home for sale in KY near Mammoth Caves..Bee Springs. It is very wooded, has a small creek and is several acres at a good price..log construction with a front porch and a basement.

if you are interested PM me

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Old 05/14/09, 05:22 PM
 
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Taylor county KY is not too bad......people for the most part are pretty nice, but you do have a fair share of them that take a REALLY LONG TIME to "warm up" to an "outsider/import". We have been here since '02, and know some that have been here 20+ years and still get a bit of an attitude from the locals....if your parents & grandparents weren't born and raised here, well...you get the idea. Strongly entrenched good ol' boy network in the various areas of local government, law enforcement, business, schools. From what we hear though, many of the smaller areas around KY tend to be of a similar nature. :|

Do you have children? The schools in Taylor are for the most part pretty good. Not a lot of challenging things are done with the kids that can handle the work though. County school system is generally thought of as better than the city school system. If you are buying acreage, I would guess that it is located within the county system.

The winters havent been too awful here in this part of KY, since we moved here anyways. Did get some of that last ice storm, usually get some snow and/or ice every winter but it usually doesn't amount to a whole lot. Roads are kind of hilly, so winter precip will usually shut schools & such down, at least for a day or two. Summertime, well, it gets pretty warm....somewhat humid but not ALL the time. Got kinda dry the last couple summers, but lately its been kinda soggy the past couple of weeks.

Be advised, if you like the occasional partaking of intoxicating spirits, Taylor county is a "dry" county. However, they DID actually pass (and it survived a couple of challenges post-election) a "moist" vote here....where restaurants that are located within the city limits of Campbellsville that seat 50 people or more can apply to get liquor licenses to serve by the drink WITH a meal. Not a large variety of restaurants to choose from, but there are several towns that aren't too awful far (between 15-40 miles or so) that have a wider selection to choose from.

Otherwise, you have to drive over to one of the more progressive counties and purchase your adult beverages to take home, etc.

It's pretty laid back here...some would say more of a stuck in the '50's, but all in all I guess its not too bad.

Can't tell ya a whole lot about Greenup county.

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Old 05/14/09, 07:25 PM
 
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spacecadet, Thank you that's exactly the sort of info I am looking for..my son will be leaving for college in September, so I don't have to worry about the school systems at all. And we don't imbibe, so that isn't a concern either.

Ronbre, I did send you a pm, I'd be interested in info on your friend's property-I am fascinated with the Mammoth Cave area.

Anyone have anything good or bad to say about Greenup county or that part of Kentucky?

Martha

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Old 05/14/09, 08:13 PM
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Otherwise, you have to drive over to one of the more progressive counties and purchase your adult beverages to take home, etc.
Cmon now, its only what? 4 maybe 5 miles on up the the caution lite from the fairgrounds? I presume Big Johns and 208 are still open aint they? That aint a bad drive at all. From where I live its a bit over 50 miles to the nearest store, and about the same to Big Johns, just wee bit further to Dumas Walkers down on the Tn line. I used to drive up to Cville and get load once a week when I was laid up with a broken leg and was bootleggin to feed the kiddies.
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Old 05/14/09, 08:23 PM
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spacecadet, Thank you that's exactly the sort of info I am looking for..my son will be leaving for college in September, so I don't have to worry about the school systems at all. And we don't imbibe, so that isn't a concern either.

Ronbre, I did send you a pm, I'd be interested in info on your friend's property-I am fascinated with the Mammoth Cave area.

Anyone have anything good or bad to say about Greenup county or that part of Kentucky?

Martha
Givin my druthers, I would much druther be in Taylor country that Greenup county, yer gettin over into the rough end of the world over there. The hills is so steep and close together a dog has to wag his tail up and down, aint got room sideways.
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Old 05/14/09, 10:09 PM
 
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Weedlady, you're welcome! Is he already set on the school? I forgot to mention, they do have a (I believe it is run by Baptists) small university here (Campbellsville University) and a town about 20 miles away (Columbia) has Lindsey Wilson College. Then of course, as you spread out from here, there are many other schools to choose from too. Taylor co is about 75-80 miles from Louisville, or about 80-85 miles from Lexington. Bowling Green has Western KY University.

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Old 05/14/09, 10:17 PM
 
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Cmon now, its only what? 4 maybe 5 miles on up the the caution lite from the fairgrounds? I presume Big Johns and 208 are still open aint they? That aint a bad drive at all. From where I live its a bit over 50 miles to the nearest store, and about the same to Big Johns, just wee bit further to Dumas Walkers down on the Tn line. I used to drive up to Cville and get load once a week when I was laid up with a broken leg and was bootleggin to feed the kiddies.

Yeah, sumptin like that! Both Big Johns and 208 are still open and doing some good business I imagine. Go there from time to time, but usually purchase most of that sort of stuff when we make it up to Ft Knox and the class 6 store. We actually live off the same road that crosses the highway at the caution light.....maybe 5 miles? from that point?
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Old 05/15/09, 01:49 AM
 
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Taylor county KY is not too bad......people for the most part are pretty nice, but you do have a fair share of them that take a REALLY LONG TIME to "warm up" to an "outsider/import". We have been here since '02, and know some that have been here 20+ years and still get a bit of an attitude from the locals....if your parents & grandparents weren't born and raised here, well...you get the idea.
You know....I just keep reading comments like this one in these posts that keep popping up about moving to KY. Ummm, I'm KY born and bred and I have to ask what exactly it is you were expecting when you moved into a small community from outside the state? Most folks in any small town in any state will have known each other for ages and while I have never thrown anyone a ticker tape parade for moving here, I don't believe I have ever (in my 35 years) actually witnessed a Kentuckian giving attitude to anyone simply because they weren't born here. You might want to take a good look at how hard you are working to fit into your chosen community and get a good feel for what the local people value before deciding to move here.

For instance, we are in a dry county and have voted repeatedly to keep it that way. I would assume that anyone moving here would probably have done enough homework to learn that a majority of the community has always voted to keep our county dry -and therefore either share those values or find somewhere else to move to. If being "stuck in the 50s" isn't your thing, moving to a small rural community in the heart of the bible belt and expecting the locals to warmly embrace you and your different values is a bit of a stretch, wouldn't you think?
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[QUOTE=SpaceCadet12364;3811763]Weedlady, you're welcome! Is he already set on the school?

Yes, and a chance to brag..He will be going to Northwestern University in Chicago with almost a full tuition scholarship. Yes, I am a proud mom and take every oportunity to boast about that.

HobbyFarmer, you make a very valid point. I hear and see those attitudes here and elsewhere often. Rest assured, I am not coming to Kentucky expecting it to change..I am coming to Kentucky to get away from the Metropolitan conveniences. I want to step back in time and find rural peace, quiet, and simplicity. and Dry is fine with us.

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Old 05/15/09, 12:07 PM
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Weedlady, you're welcome! Is he already set on the school?

Yes, and a chance to brag..He will be going to Northwestern University in Chicago with almost a full tuition scholarship. Yes, I am a proud mom and take every oportunity to boast about that.

HobbyFarmer, you make a very valid point. I hear and see those attitudes here and elsewhere often. Rest assured, I am not coming to Kentucky expecting it to change..I am coming to Kentucky to get away from the Metropolitan conveniences. I want to step back in time and find rural peace, quiet, and simplicity. and Dry is fine with us.
You should do just fine in Taylor county then. I did ok there myself. Found everyone to be quite pleasant and welcoming. I also noticed a few others who seemed to think the local folks were in need of changing their ways didnt blend in as well as I did. I listened to the old folks, tryed to learn all I could from them and they responded to me very well.
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Old 05/15/09, 04:33 PM
 
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Well, maybe my recent experiences with a PITA neighbor are flavoring my outlook on some aspects of life here.

I take it that you don't mind one bit when a neighbor with a lil bit of property seems to think its ok to run their herd of hunting dogs thru your place that is 5 times the size of theirs (ours is only 10 acres) and go after your livestock?? Hunting dogs that dont know the difference between a rabbit and poultry? And apparently are not trained well enough to be able to broken off when they are onto the wrong species of animals? Its been one problem after another with this PARTICULAR neighbor.....everyone else, not a single lick of trouble with them....everyone else seems to get along just fine. And yes, they are all locals. Not imports like us. Matter of fact, when the local that we bought from put this place up for sale, they were worried that a developer or something would buy it....and were relieved (well, so anyone that has told us anyways) when someone bought it to use as a farm for animals instead of planting a subdivision. The one with the hunting dogs, at first we had told him no problem about running the dogs AS LONG AS THEY LEFT THE LIVESTOCK ALONE! Well, the dogs didnt, so we said no more crossing the place. And that, as they say, is when the party started.

I never said we expected it to change for us...please point out where I said that??.....I said "some say" regarding the stuck in the '50's here. And, anyone that has actually spent any appreciable amount of time living in Campbellsville (especially now that this is the 21st century) should know what that means. As I said, people for the most part are pretty nice.....but, small towns are small towns. I came from a small town up north, so I know how small towns can work. I don't recall northern small towns reacting quite like they do down here to new people that move in. Our most recent living area prior to moving to here, was the Virginia Beach VA area...thats why we moved from there, it was too crazy, and after 20 years of military life we wanted to get closer to family. And away from the crazy....

Someone I know that is a local from here, albeit the next county over, said that over in his home county (still in Kentucky, mind you)....there are areas that even though you have lived in that county for a couple or so generations, if you move into that particular section of the county you might as well have moved in from New York or someplace like that. You will be considered an "outsider". KY born and bred don't make much difference, if it wasnt that particular section of their area.

SO....Kentucky born and bred'ers.....it's not just us "imports" that have noticed that some people are just that way. Tell ya what.....have you ever heard of a message board of sorts, www.topix.net ? Go check out the forums on there under Campbellsville KY......see what you think as you peruse the 7429
threads on there. That might give some of you a lil' insight to the area.

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Here, I will even save you the trouble of having to search for it.....have fun reading.

http://www.topix.net/forum/city/campbellsville-ky

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spacecadet- it's s shame you are having trouble with a neighbor but if you care to read over the livestock threads on ANY forum that hosts them, I believe you will find the same grumbling about neighbor's dogs in every state.

There's not much I need to read about Campbellsville- been to more than a few family reunions in the area. It's where some of my people are from.

I never said you had expressed that you expected the state to change for you- I only pointed out that if you aren't getting the welcome you expected when you moved here, you ought to consider how realistic those expectations might have been. I don't understand why I keep reading these posts about how "unwelcome" outsiders are here yet no one feels unwelcome enough to move back out. Obviously, there is something attractive to you about Kentucky hospitality.

weedlady- there are differences in Taylor and Greenup counties of course. IMO, the more eastern counties are all a bit more rural-minded than the western areas. Of course the Bowling Green/Louisville/Lexington areas are booming busy with something going on all the time so it's convenient to keep that in mind if you are into that sort of thing. We're right smack dab between BG and Louisville and we're spittin distance from Mammoth Cave so I don't feel so rural here that I'm bored to death. Most counties here have a pretty up to date chamber of commerce. Maybe you could contact those chambers in both counties and see what kind of info they may be able to send out to you. Visit both counties and talk to the business owners, bankers, neighbors in the area and get an honest feel. You will probably have an instinct that tells you where you can most likely feel at home.

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Wasn't expecting any sort of "special welcoming" when we moved here, other than treat others as you would like to be treated. The PITA is pretty much the only "problem", per se, that there has been for the most part....of course, they have caused all sorts of issues for us. Unwarranted, unfriendly, hostile, harmful issues.

Everyone else is pretty much okey dokey. Neighbors helping neighbors when they need it, shooting the breeze, sharing stuff, etc. You get the picture I would imagine. The kind of stuff that induces one to relocate to a rural area in the first place.

Sometimes, just moving back out is not an option. Sometimes, the necessary resources are not available for such an endeavor, no matter how badly you may wish you had them, because you used said resources moving there in the first place. Sometimes, as you say, the attractiveness of an area still manages to outweigh the ugliness of a few sad, sorry individuals.....who seem to have nothing better to do than try and cause what hate and discontent they can with whomever they can. We are not the first to have problems with this PITA, from what we have been told.
We are scouting around for a different place though, we like the area.

When stuff like that happens, 'bout the only thing that can keep ya sane sometimes is the realization that karma is your friend. People that continually do others like some people are want to do, it will eventually catch up with them.

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I don't know anything about either county specifically that hasn't been mentioned, just general things such as "wet" vs "dry" and so on. Climate will be pretty much the same overall, I think, although the Ohio Valley seems to get more storms and often more severe storms ... eastern part of the state, colder weather in the winter.

The "small town" syndrome is actually the same in the small Montana communities I've lived in as the communities are here in KY, though with a somewhat different focus. Western ranch people, especially in the smaller communities, can be very clannish ... I grew up there, so of course it didn't seem that way to me, but unless you marry into a family, if you're moving into one of these areas where there isn't a lot of turnover in the population, outsiders can find it very difficult to be accepted. Much of the recreation is ranch/rodeo or hunting/fishing ... and if you don't get involved in those sorts of activities you are not going to meet a lot of the local residents in a social way. In some of the smaller towns, almost the only 'official' meeting place is a general store or the local bar.

Here in KY it seems to be the family/ church connections that are the primary connections and definitely church is the major social outlet for people. The first few years I was here it seemed the first questions asked when I was introduced to someone was "Do you have people here?" and "What church do you go to?" and if you don't have family here, most of your social contacts will come through whatever church you attend.

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I live about 5 miles from Lebanon in Marion County which neighbors Taylor County. Taylor County is dry, but Big Johns does a good business. There's also Green River Lake that has some mighty fine fishing and recreation.

A lot of the social scene centers around church and gospel music, but there is a healthy dose of school-related ballgames and community events. Regardless of where you go in KY, the local Chamber of Commerce can be your best resource and friend for all who are new to the area.

It's pretty country around here and I can't think of anywhere that's better for living a good life. The overall medical care services in Campbellsville are better than in Lebanon, IMO.

You'd be fairly close to the Cumberland Parkway that's accessed in Columbia. This parkway runs east/west between London/I-75 in the east and Bowling Green/I-65 in the west. This parkway is also a corridor to the new and yet to be completed super highway that's going north/south from Panama to Canada.

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