organic pesticides?

[ethan]

anyone have any experience/suggestions for organic pesticides? thanks.

[mammabooh]

What do you need to eradicate?

[farmmom]

Look at Arbico Organics arbico-organics.com
They have all kinds of organic stuff and beneficial insects. They also offer free consultations. Their phone number is 1-800-827-2847
Hope this helps.

[geo in mi]

Okay, so it's Monday and time to start a debate(he said with raised eyebrows). In college, 'organic' chemistry was the study of carbon and hydrocarbon compounds--you know, plastics, petroleum products, pesticides, and that kind of stuff.

[Micheal]

organic pesticides = oxymoron.

As per the "Encyclopedia of Organic Gardening".
Pesticides: Any number of deadly chemical sprays which are used to kill insects and other harmful life in horticultural and agricultural areas. The use of pesticides is not condoned in the organic method because of the harm done to beneficial insects and soil life..............

[Tricky Grama]

Well, you COULD define 'pesticide' as any thing that kills pests.

Heres the best one:

2 bulbs garlic
3 habernero peppers
1 c H2O

Mix in blender & strain. Add enuf H2O for 1 gallon. add a squirt of lemon dish soap. Spray it on your plants.

Patty

[Pat]

Ethan,

you don't say where you are from... we use our poultry as insecticide... (we free range all poultry, and have most kinds of barnyard poultry. Some like somethings but not others, but between all them, we don't use any chemicals).

Pat

[Windy in Kansas]

Perhaps this will satisfy your needs---- http://www.omri.org/OPL_more.html i.e. the Organic Materials Review Institute which lists approved materials.

[goatsareus]

Originally Posted by ethan

anyone have any experience/suggestions for organic pesticides? thanks.

I extensively use various forms of bt, Bacillus Thuringiensis, for various bug issues. I use one form for colorado potato beetles, another for cabbage worms and yet another for corn ear worms. I also use rotonone for flea beetles.

[Paul Wheaton]

Originally Posted by ethan

anyone have any experience/suggestions for organic pesticides? thanks.

What a weird question.

I have experience de-pesting with non toxic techniques. Does that count?

[watcher]

Nicotine in low concentration is a very effective pesticide. In high concentration it is lethal for just about everything.

There used to be a guy who suggested taking a can of snuff and soaking it in a can of cola over night. Then straining it and mixing it in water as a bug spray. I have no idea what the cola was supposed to do but I assume it had something to do with the caffeine in it.

[Danaus29]

watcher, Jerry Baker is the guy you're thinking of. He had a mixture for every bug.

[ethan]

Thanks for all the suggestions folks! Pat, I live in North West Tenn. really close to Kentucky, Missouri, and Arkansas. My in-laws always have a large garden and we help them some but this year my wife and I decided we wanted to have our own garden and try to grow it organically. (sp?) We have chickens and 95% of the meat we eat is wild game. So it seems to be a natural progression and our girls are loving working in the garden, they think it's the coolest thing and so do we.
Watcher, that sounds like a waste of good Copenhagen!! HaHa!
Thanks again for all the suggestions guys, we're sort of figuring this out as we go.

Ethan

[How Do I]

We try to only use neem oil and Bt. But both can be harmful to unintended target pests because of their mode of action.

[Murray in ME]

Originally Posted by Micheal

organic pesticides = oxymoron.

As per the "Encyclopedia of Organic Gardening".
Pesticides: Any number of deadly chemical sprays which are used to kill insects and other harmful life in horticultural and agricultural areas. The use of pesticides is not condoned in the organic method because of the harm done to beneficial insects and soil life..............

There are lots of certified organic pesticides. It's also important to remember that pesticide is a large class of products that include insecticides, herbicides, fungicides and others. There are many of these products from natural and organic sources. As Windy has already mentioned, the OMRI website has a list of approved organic products.

[Murray in ME]

Originally Posted by Paul Wheaton

What a weird question.

I have experience de-pesting with non toxic techniques. Does that count?

What's weird about it, it's a valid question.

[Murray in ME]

Originally Posted by ethan

anyone have any experience/suggestions for organic pesticides? thanks.

One place that I can think of right off the top of my head that has both a good selection of organic pesticides and decent descriptions of their uses is http://www.johnnyseeds.com

[Micheal]

Murray, that's why I posted from where the info came from.
In my defense, I do use wood ashes and some homemade sprays as pest deterrents; but use hand picking (squishing) for killing.

[Tricky Grama]

Any gardener should check out www.dirtdoctor.com

Patty

[michiganfarmer]

I have heard fantastic results from people using ditomascuous earth