Cost of setting up a mobile home in Missouri

NoMoMoney · #1 04/26/09, 01:10 PM

Hi, I am new here, this is my first time posting. I am a single mother of 5. My kids are mostly grown 3 teenageres still at home. My oldest son is the only one who wants to move with me. I live in Colorado but I have purchased 16 acres in Southern Missouri, (Crawford County). It is about 1/2 pasture and the other woods. There is a pond also, it is beautiful. I was told there were no restrictions on the land there. The land is fenced but there is no electric or water there. Electric is at the road. The electric company said the first 1500 ft are free so that won't be a problem. My land is paid for by the way.
I want to move my son there first with our 2 horses and 3 dogs. Moving my son will save me $300.00 a month in boarding fees for my horses?
I am thinking of putting in a used mobile home. I want to do a composting toilet and rainwater catchment with a water filter for our water.

What I need is if someone knows what it takes to put in a mobile home in that area. Do you need a pad, or will blocks be ok? How much will it cost to level the site and to put in the pad? Who do I call to find out the state requirements? I want to have everything paid for when I move so that I won't have to work full time(hence the name NOMOMoney). I will stay here for maybe a year or so to get the money for some chickens, a cow or two and animal housing, ect.
Any help will be appreciated. I kind of feel lost since I don't know where to begin.

glenn amolenaar · #2 04/26/09, 03:04 PM

First this is Missouri very few if any restrictions, the well and septic are about the only thing that has state or county requirements. But on that mobile home for your own safety put in ribbons of concrete for stacking the blocks and install tiedowns in the concrete we have strong winds and storms so you want that mh anchored.

Glenn

Batt · #3 04/26/09, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoMoney

I am thinking of putting in a used mobile home.

I want to do a composting toilet and rainwater catchment with a water filter for our water.

I suggest that you might want to rethink the composting toilet and rainwater catchment. Unlike Colorado any water on or under your property is all yours! It will cost $6 -10K for a drilled well and septic, but worth every bit of it. Unlimited water!! and I know horses and livestock use a lot. A used mobile is not a bad idea at all. But shop around, there a lots of deals right now. Talk to a banker in the area, he might have one you can assume, and ask him to throw in the well and sewer with it. You might have to finance a little, but it shouldn't be much.

RiverPines · #4 04/26/09, 03:29 PM

Our mobile home is set up on a basement just like a house. No worry about storms. Bail to the basement if severe stuff comes. No different than a house.
Basement was built. Trailer taken off frame. Frame work built into basement walls like a house and trailer attached to that!

The only difference now is we get taxed as a house of course.

NoMoMoney · #5 04/26/09, 05:06 PM

I wanted to go with the compost toilet and rainwater to get my son there quicker. I don't have 6 to 10 k for a well just now.

WolfWalksSoftly · #6 04/27/09, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMoMoney

I wanted to go with the compost toilet and rainwater to get my son there quicker. I don't have 6 to 10 k for a well just now.

Most Rural towns have someone who hauls water to people in the Country.
Just need a container that can be found at TSC, Orschelins, and other like places.

seagullplayer · #7 04/27/09, 07:41 AM

I think you might get your son set up faster in a used camper trailer, if it is just him?

Check out Craigslist in the area you are looking.

I had my water hauled for years, if it is in farm country, you might find a local farmer that hauls his own with a pick that will help you out.

In our area, I think you can get a load hauled for $35, or if you haul it yourself a tank full is about $3 or $4...

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/

ceresone · #8 04/27/09, 08:06 AM

Why not search for a mobile home dealer in the area of your land? ask him the requirements, and what he has available. If he dosent have what you want, I'm sure he will locate one for you.
Thats what I would do, anyway.

NoMoMoney · #9 05/02/09, 11:58 AM

Thanks to everyone who answered. It was a big help. I am finding it difficult since I live so far away. Hauling water sounds like a good idea.

rafter · #10 05/25/09, 07:41 PM

We just recently moved to Mo from Colorado, so welcome. Have you checked to see if you have rural water running by your property? It does in a lot of places here.

You will find it a lot cheaper to live in Mo, than Co.

big rockpile · #11 05/25/09, 10:00 PM

The very bare cheapest I would do go to Orchelins or maybe MFA buy 6 Tie Downs,some Cable to strap it down.Get plenty of Blocks from Discount Lumber.Call around like Trailer Places see if you can find someone to move your Trailer get Permits and all.

As far as Well and Septic.Last I priced to have a Well Drilled it was going to cost $5,000 but this is not counting Pump thats another $2,000.Septic if you have Tank and Leach Field put in will be at least $3,000.If you can have a Lagoon put in it is far cheaper.

Cheapest you can get away with if no one is nosing around.Build an Outhouse.Orchelins or MFA has Big Water Tanks and Pumps that hook up to the Tank run off you 120 Electric,cut off at 40PSI.Have someone Haul Water in.Or do as I did for years catch your Rain water.Just have to rig up to where you wash your roof with the rain then start running into your Tank.

As far as Electric running 1500 feet free.It just don't sound right.I'm sure you will have to at least pay to run from the Pole into the House.You can run 12/2 with Ground for awhile but you really need heavyer Wire.

Now I'm sure plenty here are going to Blast me and say this can't be done

But I see plenty that don't have the money to do it right do this every day.

big rockpile

glenn amolenaar · #12 05/26/09, 05:57 AM

Rockpile,
No blasts I think you are right on, but I think the electric 1500 feet should be 150' the engineer from Ozark Electric let us go 168' instead of 150'. He said the little extra was no big deal, the linemen had a fit about it now this was buried cable. Engineer said overhead was still first 150' no charge. We built a home about 1/2 mile off power line the owner paid about $10,000.00 this was buried cable and if I remember right 5 or 6 pedastals.
Glenn

ceresone · #13 05/26/09, 08:05 AM

There are still lots of "baths, and a path" here, the old washtub in the kitchen, and a path to the outhouse.
Not a thing wrong with it--I actually think I miss that way of living. The used bath water goes on the flower beds, or garden.
You dig a pit before you set the outhouse up--and use lime in the summertime.
(oh, and dont forget to check for snakes before you set down)

Batt · #14 05/26/09, 08:40 AM

Our electrical came in overhead. At that time on Southwest Electric it was $300/pole, a pole every 300 feet, the first one was free. I heard a couple of years ago that that was still the price. But every electric company is different. Our well was $10/ft for the first 100 feet, $7.50/ft after that. IIRC the well came in at 320 ft. and 42 gal/minute. Add about $2,000 - $2500 for piping, pressure tank and pump.

If you have a temporary service installed (about $250) as RP said you can run a 12/2 and do a lot with it. However you could do a a whole lot more if you ran a 10/3 with ground. They usually won't say anything about a temporary service for at least a year or 2. Just tell them you are still building your house.

Harry Chickpea · #15 05/26/09, 08:42 AM

Rockpile is right. 1500' is a crazy long distance to be free. That HAS to be rechecked and had in writing before going any farther. Getting electric off the road is MAJOR expensive.

Pony · #16 05/26/09, 09:17 AM

Welcome to HT and welcome to MO! We're in NW MO, but it's a GREAT state no matter where you live, and you'll find it's less restrictive and less expensive than many other states. (We moved here from IL -- the 49th LEAST free state in the Union.)

Don't know about the price of mobile home set up, just wanted to say, "Howdy!"

luckysranch · #17 05/28/09, 10:27 AM

Is the electric at the road on your property? If not you will have to get an easement and sometimes people don't want to give them. This is always something to keep in mind when buying vacant land.

NoMoMoney · #18 06/06/09, 04:01 PM

I was told when I called the electric company that the first 1500 ft. was free as long as there was a trailer pad or a foundation of some kind. I just checked the web site again
(Crawford County Electric Co-OP) it still says the same thing. But I will call again to double check. The site I picked out was about 800 ft from the road, but I could stay by the road. I won't have as much privicy but I could live with it for a while. They do charge to hook up to the residence. The electric line ends about 50 ft from my property but it is on the road. Do I have to get an easement from the neighbors to run it down the road to my propery? If my son wasn't going I wouldn't care so much about the electric I could get by with a few solar panels. I want to do this a cheap as possible. I want to semi retire and I don't want a mortgage payment or any other large payment.

I just want to say the people on this forum are amazing. I have only offically joined recently but I have been reading the post here for some time. The amount of information that gets posted here is staggering. You have all been a wonderful help to me, even the people who haven't replyed to my post. I am so glad I found you.

The Paw · #19 06/06/09, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoMoney

I was told when I called the electric company that the first 1500 ft. was free as long as there was a trailer pad or a foundation of some kind. I just checked the web site again
(Crawford County Electric Co-OP) it still says the same thing. But I will call again to double check. The site I picked out was about 800 ft from the road, but I could stay by the road. I won't have as much privicy but I could live with it for a while. They do charge to hook up to the residence. The electric line ends about 50 ft from my property but it is on the road. Do I have to get an easement from the neighbors to run it down the road to my propery? If my son wasn't going I wouldn't care so much about the electric I could get by with a few solar panels. I want to do this a cheap as possible. I want to semi retire and I don't want a mortgage payment or any other large payment.

I just want to say the people on this forum are amazing. I have only offically joined recently but I have been reading the post here for some time. The amount of information that gets posted here is staggering. You have all been a wonderful help to me, even the people who haven't replyed to my post. I am so glad I found you.

It sounds like the electric runs alongside the road, as part of the road allowance, which wouldn't require an easement. This is assuming that your property fronts on the road.

I doubt it you would be able to collect enough rainwater to run a household and water 2 horses with what comes off the roof of a mobile. You should probably count on hauling water, which means a storage tank of 500-1000 gallons I would think. You could drill a well later, and leave the tank to collect rainwater for garden irrigation and the horses.

paul · #20 06/06/09, 07:16 PM

I'm in Douglas County, Mo., but the 1500' is about what my local co-op said too, but I decided to stay off the grid. The one problem I might have had was they got to pick the route,but I had to get the right of ways from the neighbors.

If you can rely on the pond for the horses and garden, the roof collection might be enough. If not, building a barn or shed to collect more might be cheaper than a well. The composting toilet is a good idea in any case. The only places in the Ozarks that will perk well enough to put in a leach field probably drain straight into the ground water--another reason to pass on the well.

BTW: I run an Ozark-Homestead list on Yahoo. You might be able to find local answers better by asking there.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ozark-homestead/

You can read the archives without joining, but you'll have to sign up, for free, to post. My guess is that this plug for the group will put us over the 500-member level.

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