Llama beans and threat of E Coli in garden

[norcalfarm]

I am considering using llama beans in my garden. In searching the internet, I found a lot of conflicting information concerning the need to compost llama manure prior to using in your vegetable garden. Much of the info states that it can be added directly into your garden without composting while some states that there is still a threat of e coli. If it does need to be composted, how long must it be and to what temp? Does anybody have experience with this? Any help would be appreciated.

[Old Vet]

Originally Posted by norcalfarm

I am considering using llama beans in my garden. In searching the internet, I found a lot of conflicting information concerning the need to compost llama manure prior to using in your vegetable garden. Much of the info states that it can be added directly into your garden without composting while some states that there is still a threat of e coli. If it does need to be composted, how long must it be and to what temp? Does anybody have experience with this? Any help would be appreciated.

It depends on the manure. If you are using cow manure it usually doesn't have Ecoli on it If you are using Chicken manure or rabbit manure or human manure it does and need to be composted. Don't know the temps.

[uncle Will in In.]

We don't put any fresh manure in our garden. It needs to be in a manure pile (what we called them in the good old days) at least three months or more. The best time to put manure of any kind on the garden is in the fall after the crops are gone.
Just pile your manure out of sight somewhere and you'll have premium compost the next year. <> UNK

[Cliff]

When ruminants aren't fed grain it's been shown they don't have the dangerous type of e-coli in their guts.
Grass/browse/hay and you shouldn't have a problem.

[ihedrick]

It helps to crush in some way the llama poo, then put in compost pile. Something similar to driving over it with a vehicle or such. When left whole they take longer to process. I ran over ours and then put in compost pile. Doubt all of them got broken up, but they seemed to break down.

[MaggieJ]

Originally Posted by Old Vet

It depends on the manure. If you are using cow manure it usually doesn't have Ecoli on it If you are using Chicken manure or rabbit manure or human manure it does and need to be composted. Don't know the temps.

Can you provide a source for this, Old Vet? My understanding has always been that 'bunny berries' are safe to add directly to the garden.

[Old Vet]

Originally Posted by MaggieJ

Can you provide a source for this, Old Vet? My understanding has always been that 'bunny berries' are safe to add directly to the garden.

Nope that is what I was toled at the school that I went to about manure. It may not be true some things that people teach today is off the cuff and not true.

[steff bugielski]

The bunny and goat and such are safe in the fact that they are not "hot". But any manure can have E-Coli. It lives in every animals gut even yours.
It is recommended that you wait three months from animal to plants.
The E-coli that infected people last year, was it tomatoes, was not the nasty stuff.
I put manure directly on the garden till end of winter. I will not be planting there till June.

[Ken Scharabok]

Just do a Google search on manure e-coli. You will find background information there.

[MaggieJ]

Okay, thanks, that makes sense. Funny I've never come across mention of it before, considering the amount of reading I do.

[frogmammy]

Ok, I'm confused. Llama beans and Llama poo. Are there REALLY Llama beans, or do they mean Lima beans? Or is Llama poo called Llama beans?

Mon

[Ken Scharabok]

They meant llama manure. Likely, like my donkeys, their manure comes out as pellets, rather than anything remotely like my cattle. My cattle poop whenever, wherever. The donkeys typically pick a spot and poop there repeatedly.

But, yes, I read the title the first couple of times as Lima beans also.

[fishhead]

A friend of mine who is into permaculture and combining systems said that there is a 3 month time period required between adding animal manure to harvesting crops.