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Old 03/01/09, 01:04 PM
 
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Went out to feed livestock this morning and found...

...these cougar tracks less than 50 feet from the house. Followed them to a place where it slept for a while behind the pig shelters. Must have been a good sized cat as the prints were close to five inches in size.

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Old 03/01/09, 01:24 PM
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Cats dont leave claw marks. They are wider in width than length too. The claws are retracted when walking. Thats canine or something else. Very big dog?
Here is info on tracks from the DNR, including cougar tracks.LINK
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Old 03/01/09, 01:52 PM
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Cats dont leave claw marks. They are wider in width than length too. The claws are retracted when walking. Thats canine or something else. Very big dog?
Here is info on tracks from the DNR, including cougar tracks.LINK
The link you posted says "typically" cougars don't leave claw marks, which means sometimes they might. Looking at the rest of the print, the rear of the heel pad in some of the tracks does appear to have 3 lobes, while in others it's not so clear. This may well be a cougar. I would be very careful about following the tracks, you might find the end of them.
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Old 03/01/09, 01:55 PM
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Yep. RiverPines is right. That's either a good sized dog or wolf. Which eastern Washington would make tha a possiblity.
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Animal tracks

Look under the dog family section. SRM
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Old 03/01/09, 02:18 PM
 
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I've never seen wolves around here, but this is cougar country and where it bedded down, it was very much cougar colors in the snow. The tracks appeared from way out in the wheat fields and continued on through them after it past our house. Never seen a dog that big for miles around here, plus do they step inside their own prints?
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Old 03/01/09, 02:27 PM
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Probably someones labrador retriever or other big dog. Definately not cat.
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I may not know what it is exactly, but it is an animal with a huge print and step, one that's nearly 3 feet! Also, we live in the middle of nowhere, and those that have dogs are obviously miles away.
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Old 03/01/09, 03:00 PM
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When my friend had a cougar on her property last year, the tracks had distinct claw marks.

It was definately a cougar too, they got pics and video of it.
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When my friend had a cougar on her property last year, the tracks had distinct claw marks.

It was definately a cougar too, they got pics and video of it.
Cougars can extend or retract their claws as needed. These tracks were made in snow, so the cougar may have felt the need for some extra traction.

While it is entirely possible for the cat to walk around with it's claws extended, it is not possible for a canine to change it's heel pad from two to three lobes.
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Cougars can extend or retract their claws as needed. These tracks were made in snow, so the cougar may have felt the need for some extra traction.

While it is entirely possible for the cat to walk around with it's claws extended, it is not possible for a canine to change it's heel pad from two to three lobes.


those paw prints have a single lobe on the front of the heel pad, ala canids. the heel pad of a cat is usually much wider than that, with a pronounced middle lobe on the bottom of the heel pad and an even more pronounced indent in the middle of the top of the heel pad.

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It looks like a lost golden retriever if you ask me. Definitely not a cat.
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I can't read tracks - BUT - we have plenty of big cats here in North Idaho and E. Washington. And I mean BIG.

My GF saw one several months ago near a well traveled paved road at about 10 AM. Pretty spooky when they get bold enough to be seen in broad daylight. She passed a guy out jogging about 1/2 a mile later....
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The shape of the track (width to length & toe locations), the rear pad shape, and the orientation of the claws all say canine.
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When I look at the tracking pattern of these prints, it doesn't appear to have the same pattern as a dog. A dog steps differently than that of a cat, right? And the distance and size of them is something hard to imagine for a dog the size of a retriever, just too large a print and space between steps.
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Old 03/01/09, 04:53 PM
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Well according to the link, it does look like canine. But anything big enough to leave a print that size spells d-a-n-g-e-r-o-u-s to me!
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Old 03/01/09, 05:03 PM
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Out of curiosity, for the people who say it is a dog (I can't tell one way or another) how big would that dog be to have paws that large? I've seen plenty of golden retrievers in my day, and I have yet to see one with paws as big as my hand.

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Old 03/01/09, 05:08 PM
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The tracks appear to be a large canine of some kind.

Here is a link that shows the differences between canine and cat tracks.
http://www.bear-tracker.com/caninevsfeline.html

Large critter, for sure.

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St Bernard's have very big feet. Also, did it kill anything? Unless it couldn't get to any livestock (perhaps due to electric fencing or very sound buildings), it would have been attracted to your place looking for food. A dog, however, will take himself for a walk just for the fun of it.
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Old 03/01/09, 05:17 PM
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Beaners, I have a large golden. In mud or soft snow, his tracks are huge. Bigger then the size of my palm. I am 5'2 and the top of his head is at my hip and he's not quite done growing. The first thing I thought when I saw those above is, those look like Marley's. Also, it seems that when the snow is just barely cold enough to stay frozen, his tracks are bigger then when the snow is really cold and firm.

Don't know why, I am not a tracker, but those are my own observations with a big dog.
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