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11/10/08, 07:57 PM
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Wow, I hope he gets it.
Saw this on my local Craigslist.
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ALL-NATURAL PORK (Pierpont OH)
Reply to: sale-913427202@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-11-10, 2:29PM EST
Blackbird Farms All-Natural Pork
Our pork is raised humanely using traditional and sustainable practices that never include antibiotics or hormones. An excellent alternative to factory farm meats, we offer pork by the whole hog, half hog, split-side or in one of our convenient packages.
Place your order today, supplies are limited.
Whole Hog: Deposit $200
• Approximately 130-160 pounds of all-natural pork
• $4.00/lb final cost – includes processing
• Final Price Range $520-$640
Half Hog: Deposit $100
• Approximately 60-75 pounds of all-natural pork
• $4.00/lb final cost – includes processing
• Final Price Range $240.-$300
• Fills about 1/3 of a traditional top freezer
Split-side: Deposit $50
• Approximately 35-40 pounds of natural pork
• $4.00/lb final cost – includes processing
• Final Price Range $140- $160
Family Sample Pack: $52.00
4 packs of pork chops – 2 chops per 1 lb pack
2 packs of bacon – approx. 1 lb per pack
2 packages Mild Italian Sausage Links –8 links per approx. 2 lb pack
1 pork loin roast – approx. 3lbs.
Tailgate Special: $48.00
2 packs of Bratwurst – 8 links per approx. 2 lb pack
2 packs of Kielbasa- 8 links per approx. 2 lb pack
4 lbs of Beef- Grass-fed, all-natural & pasture raised – makes approx. 16 burgers
• Pork is available for Pick Up at the Farm
• We are located in Pierpont, Ohio which is about 1 hour from either Cleveland, OH or Erie, PA
We are also taking orders for all-natural turkey available November 2009.
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I know there are a few pasture raised producers. Are y'all getting the $4.00/lb average for your hogs?
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11/10/08, 08:42 PM
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I just saw an ad similar to that in our local Craigslist...here it is to compare....
Grass Fed, Local, Natural Beef, Lamb, Pastured Pork (Dodd City)
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Reply to: sale-912697412@craigslist.org [?]
Date: 2008-11-09, 11:11PM CST
No Hormone Implants, No Routine Antibiotics, No GMOs, Heritage Breeds
See Farm, Product, and Pricing Info listed on website for more details!
Wholes,Halves,Split Quarters of Beef (60 to 400 pounds)- $4.50 per pound
Whold Lambs (30 Pounds)- $8.25 per pound
Whole or Half of Hog (50 to 120 pounds)- $5.75 per pound
Group Delivery Days, Food Co-ops, and Shipping Available
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11/10/08, 08:44 PM
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A local farmer here (east TN) following the same practices sells his for $1.20 live weight and that is including processed.
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11/10/08, 09:10 PM
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I wish them the best, developing their market is the whole key in that niche.
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11/11/08, 12:23 AM
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I get $2 hanging and they pay the butcher, which still ends up well under $3 per pound. I wish them the best of luck. If I could get it I would do it.
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11/11/08, 12:35 AM
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I just sold two sides from our extra pig a few weeks ago and got $225 per side for a total of $450. That was total processed price like he is advertising. Price per pound that we sold would be right at $3.75/lbs. That is $3.75/lbs for the meat you put in the freezer. They got roughly 60-70 lbs of meat per side. $3.75 x 60lbs = $225 per side.
Last edited by nathan104; 11/11/08 at 10:36 AM.
Reason: oops, had wrong price on there.
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11/11/08, 05:11 AM
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Just depends on your market. You could get that here if you went into the city proper at one of thier farmers'markets. Not sure and ad on Craigslist would do it though. We had a lady who wanted to sell organic pasture raised pork at our market........... but she sold out to an organic restaraunt before the season started at $8/pound!! I sell non-organic lamb for 6.25/pound for whole (and that's going up to $7/pound) and by the cut averaging about $8 per pound yeild on a lamb.
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11/11/08, 08:45 AM
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Those prices look about right. There is a huge difference between quality pork and plain old cheap meat. The people who care about the quality of their food and the conditions under which it is raised will pay more than someone who just wants to eat as cheaply as possible. Guess who's getting the better bargain?
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11/11/08, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PlowGirl
Guess who's getting the better bargain?
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Whoever thinks they are... that's how niche marketing works.
$4.00 a lb/pork won't feed the hungry masses... but it's good for those who want it and are convinced it's what they need.
I am all for niche marketing though. Wish I had one developed for myself.
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11/11/08, 11:08 AM
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In threads here about foods there have been people saying that they are willing to pay a lot more for such "organic" meat. The demand is there so the market complies.
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11/11/08, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by zukgod
I get $2 hanging and they pay the butcher, which still ends up well under $3 per pound. I wish them the best of luck. If I could get it I would do it.
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Do you pasture raise yours? Are they given medications? Not trying to sound rude...I'm honestly curious because that's about what our pork and beef, pastured, goes for here. I'm wanting to raise a few pigs and hopefully get ours free...just trying to get a feel for prices right now.
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11/11/08, 01:56 PM
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I'm thinking I can raise a few pigs organically, though not certified, and ask for less than $4/lb....more like $3.50, hanging weight, they pay the butcher. Do you think I could get it?
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11/11/08, 01:57 PM
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whew. pretty pricey. Dad's halves weigh right around 95lb, he gets $180, and the buyer has to help cut and wrap. Any smoking cost is up to the buyer
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11/11/08, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ross
Just depends on your market. You could get that here if you went into the city proper at one of thier farmers'markets. Not sure and ad on Craigslist would do it though. We had a lady who wanted to sell organic pasture raised pork at our market........... but she sold out to an organic restaraunt before the season started at $8/pound!! I sell non-organic lamb for 6.25/pound for whole (and that's going up to $7/pound) and by the cut averaging about $8 per pound yeild on a lamb.
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How do you sell meat at the farmer's market? Do you just advertise and take orders there or do you also take a cooler with meat along?
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11/11/08, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by outofmire
Do you pasture raise yours? Are they given medications? Not trying to sound rude...I'm honestly curious because that's about what our pork and beef, pastured, goes for here. I'm wanting to raise a few pigs and hopefully get ours free...just trying to get a feel for prices right now.
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You're not rude at all, they are pasture raised, given no medications with the exception of a Iron shot and a worm shot. We do not feed organic, it seems to be much more expensive to feed that way, and I don't think you get the money back. We raised 4 pigs sold 3 and got ours for free and made some money for our time.
Feel free to ask any questions you like I don't mind.
Josh
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11/12/08, 07:01 AM
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around here they'd get it. Friend of mine does a co-op about 2x a year and gets several people in on buying a cow or a pig, Pasture raised, organic, and all.....last time I looked they ended paying about $4 a lb. With 8 mouths to feed here that like meat its too expensive for my budget. I'll stick to deer and my rabbits!
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11/16/08, 02:12 AM
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Local meat processor sells local grown hogs for .75lb walking weight plus processing. I'm sure they're not pasture raised organic. They are pen raised on commercial feed at a very small scale farm.
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Originally Posted by zukgod
You're not rude at all, they are pasture raised, given no medications with the exception of a Iron shot and a worm shot. We do not feed organic, it seems to be much more expensive to feed that way, and I don't think you get the money back. We raised 4 pigs sold 3 and got ours for free and made some money for our time.
Feel free to ask any questions you like I don't mind.
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The key is, to feed them whatevers absolutely cheapest, and then "market" them as organic.
You're absolutely right... if you feed animals all certified organic feeds, then it's very hard to see any profit, unless you charge a lot more than the organic pork is bringing...
All of my pork is certified organic... with the exception of a very small portion that has lead poisoning. I pick through that, take out the lead (usually a monolithic solid) and feed that to the chickens. My pork futures are looking dim... the 'market fluctuations' [feral hog sign] are slim this year...
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11/16/08, 12:43 PM
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How about pin raised on cafe garbage supplimented with commercial feed. What are they worth? I know where there are some of them for sale.
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11/16/08, 07:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zukgod
You're not rude at all, they are pasture raised, given no medications with the exception of a Iron shot and a worm shot. We do not feed organic, it seems to be much more expensive to feed that way, and I don't think you get the money back. We raised 4 pigs sold 3 and got ours for free and made some money for our time.
Feel free to ask any questions you like I don't mind.
Josh
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It's really helpful to the rest of us to know where you are located.
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