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Old 11/06/08, 03:42 PM
 
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Any reason these wont work for gas storage?

Local guy has a bunch for $10 each. They are 275 gallon. Thinking about getting enough to store 1000 gallons of gas to use this summer when the prices go back up. Thanks in advance for your opinions

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Old 11/06/08, 04:31 PM
 
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Light will make gas go bad in a shourt time. Other than that it would make a fine thing to store gas in.
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Old 11/06/08, 05:21 PM
 
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Light will make gas go bad in a shourt time. Other than that it would make a fine thing to store gas in.
I figured i would stash them in the shed to keep them out of the light.
Any other opinions appreciated.
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Old 11/06/08, 05:26 PM
 
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Be sure to use fuel stablizer. I can't tell you how many times we have to drain a fuel tank and clean the carb. on a piece of equipment because the unit stored it without draining the fuel.

If only I had a use for all the old diesel, 2 cycle, and gasoline we drain. :0)
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Old 11/06/08, 05:40 PM
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Great Price!

Some Guy I Know Had 100 Gals. Of Jet Fuel Stored In One.

Those Look Real Clean. I Can Get Them For Free That Are Food Grade.

They Are A Multitude Of Uses For Me. Water Storage Right At The Top. Can Take Them Out Of The Cage And Cut Them In Half.....for Whatever....or Cut Them However.....we Used Chainsaw.

Texican Had A Good Thread On This A While Back.

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Old 11/06/08, 06:25 PM
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I wish I could find some of those!
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Texican Had A Good Thread On This A While Back.

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I couldnt find a thread from him on it do you by chance have a link?
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Old 11/06/08, 07:14 PM
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I use one of those for my cistern. I bought it for $50 from a neighbor. $10 is a terrific deal!
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One potential problem is that the oil companies make winter fuel "thinner" than summer fuel. They adjust the winter fuel to a lighter blend of hydrocarbons that vaporize faster at the colder temperatures of wintertime. The idea is that the thinner blend helps engines start better in the colder temperatures. Summer fuel is made correspondingly thicker to prevent excessive evaporation in summer heat. If you keep winter fuel in storage till summer, you'll probably loose as significant amount to evaporation, and could also have problems like vapor lock.
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Old 11/06/08, 10:03 PM
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The one I have, had a cutting oil stored in it, so I can't imagine it not being good for diesel... for gas? probably safe too. Like you, I'd store it in the barn, or under shade.

I've got two barrels of red diesel stored here on the farm. In an emergency, and fuel wasn't available, I'd not hesitate to use it in any diesel engine.... things get that bad, doubt if anyone would actually care... I'd love to get my UBC filled with diesel. Would also probably be red diesel.

No matter if it's diesel of gas, I'd probably rotate my stock... and with gas, definitely put the stabilizer in...
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Old 11/06/08, 11:35 PM
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i looked at my gas can once to see what type of plastic it was and it said "HDPE". that is pretty common stuff and it surprised me. i thought you needed something special for gas.
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Old 11/07/08, 08:14 AM
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I have always been told that you could only store gasoline in approved containers.
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Old 11/07/08, 09:21 AM
 
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I wouldn't waste my time and money, the gas can and will go bad and cause you aggravation and money loss. my neighbor did it with just 55gal. and then we spent time getting his tractor running. His tractor is an old Ford 8N that will run on about anything and the old gas with stabilizer still gave him problems and the loss of all of that gas.
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Old 11/07/08, 09:41 AM
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I would just put them in the shade at least 50 ft apart in case of a fire., or throw one of those cheap green tarps over them
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Old 11/07/08, 09:56 AM
 
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Storing gas and diesel problems

We had some fuel a neighbor had when he moved and could not carry it with him. It was less that 4 months old had stabalizer in it and stored in a controled inviorment. We tried some in a old lawn mower seemed to work ok tried some in the old car it did ok but seemed off some how tried it a couple of times and then put half a tank in with a half a tank of new gas. used it up and did it again. My mechanic said it had water that probably condensed in it. Wrecker and new fuel pump over $450.
We have a seperate storage building for storage of fuel, oil, and other infalmeables, 1000 feet away from all other buildings and down wind. If you have stored fuel and not approved by code you have no insurence and in case of a fire the fire dept will just back off and keep it from spreading. Not worth it in my book. In the fuel storage there is 50 galleons of gas, 100 of diesel and all the oil, grease nothing else of importance if it catches fire we just let it burn. call the fire dept just incase it becomes a grass fire. But storing large amounts of fuel makes little sense.
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Old 11/07/08, 11:36 AM
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Local guy has a bunch for $10 each. They are 275 gallon. Thinking about getting enough to store 1000 gallons of gas to use this summer when the prices go back up. Thanks in advance for your opinions

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Will work and Is SAFE are two different things. 1000 gallons is a lot of fuel to store. Transferring it safely is going to be an issue. What is the tanks your looking at made of? Will they hold gas or will it eat away the materials. Will whatever that was int he tanks before react to the gas. You can never get a chemical tank 100% clean. How you going to get 1000 gallons into those thanks. NO!!! bulk dealer is going to deliver fuel and put it in non-approved containers and 1000 is a lot of 5 gallon fill ups. No gas stations should allow you to fill one of those at a station. How will you contain any spills? Might check your home insurance also MANY have fuel storage limits some a low as 10 gallons outside of a vehicle. Way to much gas to store a mange in non approved containers.
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Old 11/07/08, 12:02 PM
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What is the tanks your looking at made of?
If they are the same as mine they're high density polyethylene (HDPE). Gasoline does not adversely affect HDPE.
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Picked up metal drums today, some for a smoker, some for feed troughs, a couple for fuel storage. One had contained kero, one contained 'motorsport' fuel. I don't figure I have a problem with original use drums. I'll transfer with a..........transfer pump. Can't speak for anyone else, but I probably go through 25-30 gal a week so I'm not too concerned with it sitting long enough to go bad. It may not be worth the effort for some folks, might be too scary for others but for me having a backup of fuel is as prudent as having extra food or clothing put aside. I get callous on my hands from working and doing, not from wringing them together.
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Old 11/07/08, 04:27 PM
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This will give you an idea of how I use one of those HDPE tanks as a cistern. I fill it with a garden hose from my next door neighbor's system. I have it in a shed that's attached to the house with the water heater, so the house & water heater heat keep the pipes from freezing (with any luck!). I only need to fill the tank about once per month. This is what it looks like.

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I pressurize the water system with a pump intended for use in a boat.

http://www.jabsco.com/products/marin...2560/index.htm

It runs on 12-volt current. The pump comes on whenever the pressure drops below 50 psi, and can deliver up to 3 gallons per minute. You can see the small black pump on the floor below. I paid about $100 for it new at eBay, and I've been using it for a year now without any problems.

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Old 11/08/08, 11:41 AM
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Where Can I get These tanks ? Id love them for fuel storage and what a dream to find a clean food grade one...................
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