Winter Wheat

[kens]

I,m a total novice on wheat and at the feed store they are selling winter wheat seeds for deer forage.would it be the same as red winter wheat they did,nt know either.I,d like to grow some for bread but don,t know if this is the kind to use.THANKS for any info.Ken:

[Bearfootfarm]

If it's labled for "deer" it's usually a lot more expensive than regular "seed" wheat.

Here's one of the cheapest places I've found for any type of seed or fertilizers:
http://www.cropproductionservices.com/

There's probably one not too far from you

[Windy in Kansas]

It could be hard white winter wheat or it could be hard red winter wheat. You should be able to tell a visual difference. I would expect hard red.

[DaleK]

Never heard of using winter wheat as deer feed (intentionally anyway, they take plenty on us), if it was me selling it it would probably be a mixture of more than one kind. If they don't know what kind it is either, I'd get it somewhere else.

[stranger]

for bread or storing you would want the hard white, the red is ok but most people go for the white.

[Windy in Kansas]

Originally Posted by stranger

for bread or storing you would want the hard white, the red is ok but most people go for the white.

I'd hope the red it okay as it is what has been used for centuries. Hard white has only been used in recent times.

Doubt 95% of the farmer of "Wheat State" of Kansas have even grown a bushel of hard white.

Does it taste sweeter? What is the preferred difference?

[stranger]

Originally Posted by Windy in Kansas

I'd hope the red it okay as it is what has been used for centuries. Hard white has only been used in recent times.

Doubt 95% of the farmer of "Wheat State" of Kansas have even grown a bushel of hard white.

Does it taste sweeter? What is the preferred difference?

here's some reading , all available on this site GL.

http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/sho...re+white+wheat

Wheat to grind

http://athagan.members.atlantic.net/...-1.html#Grains
Winter wheats are planted in the Fall, over winter in the field, grow through the Spring and are harvested early the next Summer. Spring wheats are planted in the early Spring and are harvested the following Fall. Red wheats comprise most of the hard varieties while white wheats comprise most of the soft. Recently, hard white wheats have been developed that are very suitable for yeast raised bread making. Some feel the hard white varieties make a better tasting whole wheat bread than the hard reds and I am inclined to agree. When milled, whole grain hard white wheat flour looks somewhat like unbleached refined white flour in appearance.

The hard red varieties, either spring or winter, are commonly chosen for storage programs because of their high protein content which should be no less than 12% with 14% or more being excellent. The hard white spring wheats are still relatively new and not yet as widespread but are steadily growing in popularity. They have the same excellent storage characteristics as the hard red wheats and should be selected with the same protein contents as well.

[Windy in Kansas]

Those sites sure make it sound like it tastes better and has some other more desirable qualities.

The universities will need to get some more varieties which can better withstand winters to prevent winter kill before it'll take over in Kansas. I expect the switch will be very slow, especially without variety improvement. So far they have been known to yield higher than hard red but only if they don't winter kill which is still somewhat of a gamble.

[kens]

Folks I paid 50cents a Lb for this wheat.Or $25.00 for 50Lbs bagged.

[Windy in Kansas]

Should work well for you. $30 per bushel, too bad the farmers don't get a larger percentage of that.

Board of trade contracts are at about $8 per bushel. Can it really be all transportation cost, cleaning and packing costs, plus a little profit? NOT.

End of the week commentary for Kansas City Board of Trade hard red winter wheat prices.
http://www.kcbt.com/commentary_2.asp?id=625