Buy Some Trees For Windblocking

[45n5]

I found this site and wanted to share, the prices seem incredible and they have a flat shipping fee of 4.95 per order

http://www.arborday.org/shopping/trees/trees.cfm

the cost of baby trees is CRAZY at the stores usually so I was thrilled to find that site.

(note I do not work for the site, just found it great and wanted to share)

I plan on ordering soon, was wondering the best type of trees for windblock and grow fast. I live in kentucky, house will be up in a next 6 months, don't want to wait 10 years for wind protection.

this tree says is good for windbreaks but only ships at 1' tall http://www.arborday.org/Shopping/Tre...tail.cfm?id=78

[sugarbush]

Don't do it!!!!! You are in Kentucky and we have state tree farms that supply residents with trees for super cheap. The arbor day trees are small first year seedlings just like what the tree farm sells.

http://www.forestry.ky.gov/seedling/

Here is the price list: http://www.forestry.ky.gov/NR/rdonly...gorderform.pdf

I would recommend the bald cypus or yellow poplar (tulip poplar) as fast growing.

[45n5]

thanks sugarbush, great info!

the dogwoods say they are for windbreaks, not sure about their speed of growth yet but they look lke they would work great

will for sure order locally if possible

[MELOC]

dogwoods grow slow and i doubt they would be effective when they lose their leaves in the winter. if you want a good windbreak, you almost need evergreens.

[Old Vet]

Originally Posted by 45n5

thanks sugarbush, great info!

the dogwoods say they are for windbreaks, not sure about their speed of growth yet but they look lke they would work great

will for sure order locally if possible

Buy from the state nursery. I used to work for the State Nursery in Arkansas and I can tell you that every tree they sell is supposed to grow in your state. You can buy from the arbor's day trees and find out that they are not grown in your area. You can buy enough trees to cover your windbreak for about $20. Put in your order today and pick them up in November through March. If the Nursery is far from you then they may ship them to a place close to you for pickup. Call them and ask them what they have and how to pick them up.

[Rick]

What is the farthest you can plant a windbreak from a building for it to be effective?

We are gardening due North of our temporary shelter, so the trees would have to be behind that- maybe 30 feet or so- I imagine that is to far.

Thanks

Rick

[sugarbush]

Originally Posted by Rick

What is the farthest you can plant a windbreak from a building for it to be effective?

We are gardening due North of our temporary shelter, so the trees would have to be behind that- maybe 30 feet or so- I imagine that is to far.

Thanks

Rick

Given your location unless you are on the top of a mountian I think the mountians serve as a wind break for you

[Rick]

Originally Posted by sugarbush

Given your location unless you are on the top of a mountian I think the mountians serve as a wind break for you

We are at 900 feet above sea level, and the knob at the top is no more than 1100 feet from what I know. We are just about at the top of a foothill. The knob across (due south) from us is probably 1200 feet above sea level.


Do you have any idea how far the trees could be from the building to be effective?

[45n5]

@rick - this link will give you details on how far away to plant the windbreak

http://plasticulture.cas.psu.edu/WindBreaks.html

we are placing ours based on looks, privacy, and ability to block wind. I reckon it's unique for each situation.

[sugarbush]

They will break the wind, but for how far I am not sure. I don't think they would be effective any more than 50 or so yards out.... Probably what you are mostly dealing with is draft as the cool air rolls down the mountians.

[CIW]

As a rule of thumb, shelter belts dampen the wind the same distance out as they are tall. So if you have 50 ft. tall trees then it will dampen the wind approx. 50 ft. out from the trees min.
There are other things that will effect that number, such as the tree species, building placement in the dampening zone and the time of year.
Your results may vary in your particular situation.

[JasoninMN]

As already pointed out there are tons of places cheaper to buy trees then the Arbor day foundation and they are also usually better quality. I have ordered mine from Idaho State University for years and have been real impressed with them. They do grow theirs as plugs though and not bare roots. If nothing else I would at least ask for the free catalog from Idaho state because it has a lot of good information about windbreaks in it. Windbreaks are only effective when done correctly. To get your seedlings off to a good start you need to make sure they are not competing with weeds/grass and they will need lots of water. Those are the two things most people fail to do and all their seedlings die and they blame the nursery.Here is a link for you to check out as ask for the catalog if you want it.

http://seedlings.uidaho.com/

[ksfarmer]

Originally Posted by CIW

As a rule of thumb, shelter belts dampen the wind the same distance out as they are tall. So if you have 50 ft. tall trees then it will dampen the wind approx. 50 ft. out from the trees min.
There are other things that will effect that number, such as the tree species, building placement in the dampening zone and the time of year.
Your results may vary in your particular situation.

In Kansas, according to Kansas State University, a shelter belt will dampen the wind up to 30 times the height of the trees, with maximum effect for 10 times the height.

[Cara]

We joined and they sold our info to all sorts of organizations that we would NEVER support....I second, don't do it.

[How Do I]

I'm with sugarbush. You'll get a much better deal through our state program. Many other states have a similar program thats sells native trees to their residents.

[Common Tator]

Poplars make great windbreaks and grow very fast. If your state program doesn't have them, you can start your own from cuttings. Good instructions here http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/...590220782.html.

[Alice In TX/MO]

Poplars are short lived and rot and fall on your house.

When we built our house we planted live oaks (green all year round) to the north of the house. Do not plant closer than 30 feet because you don't want root issues under your house, especially if you have a slab.

Plant two offset rows at least. Arranging them like a five spot domino is best.

We planted our oaks in 1979. They are HUGE and taller than the house.

[brewswain]

Originally Posted by Old Vet

Buy from the state nursery. I used to work for the State Nursery in Arkansas and I can tell you that every tree they sell is supposed to grow in your state. You can buy from the arbor's day trees and find out that they are not grown in your area. You can buy enough trees to cover your windbreak for about $20. Put in your order today and pick them up in November through March. If the Nursery is far from you then they may ship them to a place close to you for pickup. Call them and ask them what they have and how to pick them up.

where is this arkansas state nursery?
google doesnt show it

[Old Vet]

Originally Posted by brewswain

where is this arkansas state nursery?
google doesnt show it

It is at North Little Rock. Call the number for the Arkansas forestry Commision in any area and they will give you the phone number. Allan Murray is the nuraery supivisior and he is verry nice to talk with and has sugestions about just about anything pertaining to trees. IF you order trees call the State headquartirs and ast them for the persion that handels the purchase of trees. You may be able to Google it by useing Baucum Nursery or Arkansas Forestry Commision.

They have ten locations through out the state that they deliver trees to so you can pick them up close to home.

[EDDIE BUCK]

http://www.forestry.state.ar.us/ Hope this helps Eddie