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Old 08/04/08, 03:41 AM
 
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Creative ways to mark property lines?

After a long standing dispute with one neighbor over location of property lines, three of us have decided to share the costs for professional Surveyor to mark the lines. The Surveyor has told us he will mark the lines using re-bar spray painted orange plus use orange tape to hang along the route in trees.
He also told us it was legal for us to add as much re-bar as we like, along the path he will show us.

We already know of at least seven "corner" spots we would like to place a more permanent marker of some type, to clearly "mark the spot" and use something that will be difficult, if not impossible, to move.

Ideas we have so far:
-One idea was to use three old tires, stack them and then fill with rock. Spray paint if desired.
-Another idea is to use taller re-bar, hammer into ground, then top with a tube of PVC pipe. Spray paint if desired.
-Use stacked tires, fill up the insides with "great stuff" foam to hold in place, plus stick a long re-bar in the middle.

We do not want to create anything terribly "ugly" .......so the idea was rejected to place old toilets along the property lines.........although it was tempting........

Any other creative ways to mark the property corners? Thank you.

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Old 08/04/08, 04:16 AM
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I heard of an old surveyer that carried a pouch of Iris tubers. When in remote areas, he'd plant the flowers next to the stake. They live for ever and are easy to spot.

Drill a post hole, pound in a chunk of re-rod and pour in some concrete right up to ground level, with a foot of re-rod sticking out. Very difficult to pull that out of the ground.

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Old 08/04/08, 06:57 AM
 
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Pound a good length of rebar in the ground with about 11/2 to 2 foot sticking above ground. Then cement a pile of rocks around it.

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Old 08/04/08, 07:14 AM
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If you have native rock, you can also make a column/tube of wire fencing material, then fill it with rocks.

I'd do more than one thing.

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Old 08/04/08, 07:32 AM
 
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Treated wooden posts standing tall look fine.

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Old 08/04/08, 07:50 AM
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Not sure about your spot but we put birdhouses on the corners of a property we used to own. You can cement a nice post in place and attach the house.

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Old 08/04/08, 08:08 AM
 
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If everyone has agreed to try and mark it exactly where the surveyor says it is, Get together and order a few hundred spruce pine trees or what ever you prefer that doesn't miz in with whats already there. Rent a 2 man post hole digger or even a small back hoe for a day and plant them every 20-30' apart.
Gets the job done and looks great also.

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What ever you use, have something protruding not less than 4 feet. In so doing the undergrowth will never obscure the marker and a brush/tractor should never run over and destroy the reference. I place "my marker" on my side of the surveyors pin to avoid a further confrontation with a difficult adjacent landowner. If he should then attempt to remove my pin he is trespassing. There is a code for painting property lines and I would also paint "my Marker" accordingly.

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Old 08/04/08, 08:59 AM
 
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Customary property lines marked on trees with paint in this area follow a simple rule. Choose a tree closest to the property line, (within 1 or 2 ft.) on your side. Mark the tree with two horizontal lines if seen from the adjacent property, then on the other side paint one horizontal line if seen from your property. So, 2 lines seen if someone is coming onto your property, one line seen if someone is going off your property. Works pretty good, doesn't have to be exactly on the line, and is generally understood by most folks.

Corner markers could be anything as described as above. Something tall would be good, but it does need to be identified as a boundary / corner marker in some fashion.

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Old 08/04/08, 09:11 AM
 
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I like "T" posts, with a milk jug fastened to the top securely.

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Old 08/04/08, 09:15 AM
 
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The coding used on trees is not uniform in the whole country. Therefore I did not list the methods. Research for where you live. What is consistent for good marking practice is to take a draw knife and remove the top bark area containing the rough bark only. Then using the best acrylic house paint apply one coat, now make the pass around the property line a second time an apply a top coat. This will last for not less than 15 years.

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Old 08/04/08, 09:26 AM
 
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Our property is marked with tposts on the corners and the survey pins in the back. We went along and added 4' rebar and spray painted them orange at the pins only markers.

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I dug a deep hole with a post hole digger .I found some old SOLID steel rods at the scrap yard . 7'long 2" around. I pounced them in at the corners & left 3' sticking out. then I put 1 full 80 lb of sackcreat in the hole , then water & stirred it up . this set up & you will need a bull dosier to up root it . I like the idea of flowers & I WILL do this in the fall I have loads of bulbs.

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Old 08/04/08, 10:03 AM
 
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pookiethebear, you need to follow some of the suggestions here. The tee post will last 20 years and the survey pins will last until someone wants to pull them up.

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Old 08/04/08, 10:11 AM
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Just keep in mind, ONLY the surveyors marks will matter during any legal squabbles.

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you are probably right. I have 400' hedge 5' from the line down one side of my property, and a wild honeysuckle growing around one of the tposts. I think I like the concrete idea, but would prefer something we all could mow over, but then it would also get grown over in time if not taken care of....will have to think on it.

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After disputing with neighbors, we hired a survey of our property, then put up a 4' woven wire fence with barbed on top all the way around, on the exact line. Of course we also used it for our pasture fence, but it serves as a good marker plus keeps out the fool hunters and their dogs. Two neighbors protested our fence and said we were over on them by many feet and they would make us move the fence. We said "show us by a survey" and soon after they had it surveyed and what do you know, the new survey tape followed our posts all the way around! They still disregard the fence at times. Twice they have knocked down a stretch by turning around their farm equipment and snagging the wire fencing with the back of their disk (neither times did they tell us, thank God the cows didn't find it!), and they still come on over it if their hunting dogs get in or if they see a turkey or deer they want. On 123 acres it's hard to "police" the whole thing. But my recommendation is to survey, then put up a permanent "pasture" type fence to mark the exact line. Don't put the fence on your prop a ways, or you're giving them that part of your land.

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Old 08/04/08, 11:55 AM
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Hey.

Steel t-posts stay in place better than rebar. In some places the rebar is buried and you need a metal detector to find it. Put a pile of rock around the corner markers.

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Thank you everyone for the ideas. We are armed and ready for tomorrow's Survey Party. The neighbors who have agreed to help pay for the Survey and my sons have all planned for a Party to help make the event more pleasant (even though it will be 94 - 96 here tomorrow....). We have re-bar, PVC pipes and caps, all sorts of spray paint, orange plastic tape, caps for the re-bar, and more spray paint and the first of a load of used tired to fill up with rocks, dirt and cement!

We plan to take photos all along the way, as the Survey man makes his marks, then put the re-bar or PVC in place........and the tires and rocks at corner places......and we are also going to take video too.

The neighbor who complains about the lines does not live here full-time and our plan is to have the lines marked, then send her photos and a statement from the Survey Company. She has NOT been invited to the "Survey Party"!

I like the idea of the T-Posts too.......we will have to pick some up later in week.

Thanks!

PS: don't try to fill up a tire with "great stuff" since one whole can will not even fill half a tire! We were trying to find a light weight way to fill the tire holes......but that won't work......I think we will just put them in place and worry about the rats/mice/wasps later.

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Old 08/04/08, 01:50 PM
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We used tposts as well, and put 10 foot long white pvc pipes over them. Sure makes it easy to see where the line is on our very wooded, uneven ground.

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