About Flag Flying

Modern Pioneer · #1 07/08/08, 11:17 AM

I was curious to know about flying the American Flag. I have a good friend/brother that lives in N. Ireland. He is sending me a special flag that he ordered for me. It is the Flag of Ulster. I want to fly this flag. It is ok that i do this as long as i fly the American Flag first? Then any other flag can be flown? If this is not correct , please set me straight.

Thanks
Keep your powder dry

BaronsMom · #2 07/08/08, 11:30 AM

In our community, there are flags displayed from other nations.

The United States Flag and the flag of other nations are never flown on the same flag pole. They are on separate poles.

The family that lives a mile from my parent's farm is from Canada - they fly the flag of their home country on a separate pole from the US Flag they fly.

The neighbor across the road from me has a flag from the Czech Republic - their heritage. The flag is not displayed with the US Flag. The US flag is on a flag pole and the Czech flag is hung on their porch.

BaronsMom · #3 07/08/08, 11:33 AM

I knew I should've looked here first -

Flag Etiquette
STANDARDS of RESPECT
From the official Flag Code of the United States of America

"When flown with the national banner of other countries, each flag must be displayed from a separate pole of the same height. Each flag should be the same size. They should be raised and lowered simultaneously. The flag of one nation may not be displayed above that of another nation. "

http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html

look under the section "Displaying the flag outdoors"

**Cabin Fever** · #4 07/08/08, 12:20 PM

I'm waiting for the Texans to chime in here and tell you that the state flag of Texas is the only state flag that can be flown at the same height as the US flag. All other state flags must be flown at a height lower than the US flag.

TxAprilMagic · #5 07/08/08, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cabin Fever

I'm waiting for the Texans to chime in here and tell you that the state flag of Texas is the only state flag that can be flown at the same height as the US flag. All other state flags must be flown at a height lower than the US flag.

I'm a Texan and this is correct.

FreeRanger · #6 07/08/08, 05:14 PM

GIVE ME A BREAK! FLY THE FLAG ANYWAY YOU PLEASE!

This is the United States of America. There is NO LAW that states you HAVE to fly the USA flag at the same time as any other nations flag.
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HAVE you given up your freedom????

If I ever get finished digging the hole for the used flag pole (that was given to me), I plan to fly the Jolly Roger with red eyes or the Christopher Condent pirate flag that I picked up at the Outer Banks of North Carolina http://www.cosmosmith.com/jolly_roger.html

There won't be an American flag on the pole except on maybe on Flag Day each year and the 4th of July.

BaronsMom · #7 07/08/08, 05:43 PM

WHOA ...

There is a certain amount of etiquette when flying and displaying the American flag. It has to do with tradition and respect.

You can do as you please, but someone asked the "proper way" to display the flag, obviously not an issue for you.

There is and has been a United States Flag Code. This code is the guide for all handling and display of the Stars and Stripes. You can find the official United States Flag Code at http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html#USFC

(edited to add: people are certainly getting their whitie tighties in a knot about all sorts of things these days - good thing you are free to tie your panties in a knot...just make it tight)

TxAprilMagic · #8 07/08/08, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeRanger

GIVE ME A BREAK! FLY THE FLAG ANYWAY YOU PLEASE!

This is the United States of America. There is NO LAW that states you HAVE to fly the USA flag at the same time as any other nations flag.
\
HAVE you given up your freedom????

If I ever get finished digging the hole for the used flag pole (that was given to me), I plan to fly the Jolly Roger with red eyes or the Christopher Condent pirate flag that I picked up at the Outer Banks of North Carolina http://www.cosmosmith.com/jolly_roger.html

There won't be an American flag on the pole except on maybe on Flag Day each year and the 4th of July.

It is called respect. Also, if the American Flag stays up on your pole through the night you HAVE TO HAVE A LIGHT SHINNING ON IT; If not you have to take it down before dark. If you can't or won't fly the American Flag with respect and by the rules you shouldn't have one to fly at all. We may have our problems here in this country but there is not one place on this whole planet that I would rather live then The United States of America. I wished you felt the same, sorry that you don't.

Nana2boys · #9 07/08/08, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cabin Fever

I'm waiting for the Texans to chime in here and tell you that the state flag of Texas is the only state flag that can be flown at the same height as the US flag. All other state flags must be flown at a height lower than the US flag.

No need to now. It's was nice for you to point it out to others on Texas' behalf.

glenn amolenaar · #10 07/08/08, 06:43 PM

We fly the USA flag on our home every day of the year. People should be proud to be an American and show their true colors. On second thought I guess some have or will be flying their true colors.
Glenn

sunnygrl · #11 07/08/08, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cabin Fever

I'm waiting for the Texans to chime in here and tell you that the state flag of Texas is the only state flag that can be flown at the same height as the US flag. All other state flags must be flown at a height lower than the US flag.

can i ask why?.... i might have heard this before, but for the life of me now I can't recall. I guess I'm getting old.

Jack T. · #12 07/08/08, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnygrl

can i ask why?.... i might have heard this before, but for the life of me now I can't recall. I guess I'm getting old.

Urban legend says it is part of their agreement in entering the Union. Note the "urban legend" part of that

Hey, being an Okie I have to get my jabs in on Texans when I can!

RichieC · #13 07/08/08, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnygrl

can i ask why?.... i might have heard this before, but for the life of me now I can't recall. I guess I'm getting old.

It's not true; it is just a story Texans like to tell.

If the flags are flow on separate poles, any state flag (including but not limited to the Texas flag) may be flown at the same height as the US flag.

If they are on the same pole, the US flag must be higher.

This according to both the US Flag Code and the flag code of the State of Texas, which follows:

Quote:

§ 3100.055. Display on Flagpole or Flagstaff With Flag of United States

If it is necessary for the state flag and the flag of the United States to be displayed on the same flagpole or flagstaff, the United States flag should be above the state flag.
If the state flag and the flag of the United States are displayed on flagpoles or flagstaffs at the same location:
the flags should be displayed on flagpoles or flagstaffs of the same height;
the flags should be of approximately equal size;
the flag of the United States should be, from the perspective of an observer, to the left of the state flag;
the flag of the United States should be hoisted before the state flag is hoisted; and
the state flag should be lowered before the flag of the United States is lowered.
Added by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1420, § 7.001, eff. Sept. 1, 2001.

Never believe a Texan.

Quint · #14 07/09/08, 03:33 AM

I always thought the US flag when with displayed with other national flags wasn't to be at the same height but to always be higher. That's what I remember from Boy Scouts. For instance if you had a line of national flags the US flag was always higher.

Personally I rarely fly the American flag anymore. I fly the Gadsden, the Confederate Battle Flag or a couple of different Missouri battle flags. I raise the old skull and bones once in a while.

TxAprilMagic · #15 07/09/08, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Quint

I always thought the US flag when with displayed with other national flags wasn't to be at the same height but to always be higher. That's what I remember from Boy Scouts. For instance if you had a line of national flags the US flag was always higher.

Personally I rarely fly the American flag anymore. I fly the Gadsden, the Confederate Battle Flag or a couple of different Missouri battle flags. I raise the old skull and bones once in a while.

Yes, The "American Flag" is to be higher than all the others. Now some believe in the so called "Urban Legend" of the Texas Flag and some don't. If you drive through Texas you can take note that all the Texas Flags are at the same height as the American Flag with all the others lower than both. The True Texans believe in it and that is all that really matters when you are in or passing through the "THE LONE STAR STATE". I believe.

RichieC · #16 07/09/08, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TxAprilMagic

Yes, The "American Flag" is to be higher than all the others. Now some believe in the so called "Urban Legend" of the Texas Flag and some don't. If you drive through Texas you can take note that all the Texas Flags are at the same height as the American Flag with all the others lower than both. The True Texans believe in it and that is all that really matters when you are in or passing through the "THE LONE STAR STATE". I believe.

All that means is that Texans are violating the Flag Code by flying other flags lower than their own.

The laws are what they are. And the laws of neither the US nor Texas give the Texas flag any special place.

And no, it is not true tha tthe US Fkag is to be flown higher than other national flags. In fact, the Flag Code provides that in that circumstance, "they are to be flown from staffs of the same height" and "the flags should be of approximately equal size" and "International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. "

The US flag receives special treatment in the sense that it is to be flown on the far left (as one faces the flags) or in the center position.

Honestly, there is no reason for "belief" or "disbelief" in any "urban legend". This is laid out in black and white in Title 4, Chapter 1 of the United States Code.

blacksmithtech · #17 07/09/08, 08:37 AM

I fly my American flag 24/7 illuminated.

It will be there till I'm gone regardless what the "horde" does to my country.

God bless the men and women who serve and protect those who refuse to fly the flag. Enjoy the freedom purchased by someone else.

Shinsan · #18 07/09/08, 09:45 AM

If there's one thing that impressed me when I stayed in the U.S. for a short while it was the patriotism shown by the displaying of the flag at so many homes.

I feel sorry for the Brits: It was reported here that citizens there can't fly the Union Jack in case it offends immigrants from other lands. Even one of their police constabularies got hauled over the coals for displaying the flag in the back window of a police bus, in an ethnic neighbourhood.

glenn amolenaar · #19 07/09/08, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinsan

If there's one thing that impressed me when I stayed in the U.S. for a short while it was the patriotism shown by the displaying of the flag at so many homes.

I feel sorry for the Brits: It was reported here that citizens there can't fly the Union Jack in case it offends immigrants from other lands. Even one of their police constabularies got hauled over the coals for displaying the flag in the back window of a police bus, in an ethnic neighbourhood.

With the new mentality and political correctness (which I think are bunk) I'm afraid this is the way the United States is headed. Whatever happened to good old common sense?
Glenn

TxAprilMagic · #20 07/09/08, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RichieC

All that means is that Texans are violating the Flag Code by flying other flags lower than their own.

The laws are what they are. And the laws of neither the US nor Texas give the Texas flag any special place.

And no, it is not true tha tthe US Fkag is to be flown higher than other national flags. In fact, the Flag Code provides that in that circumstance, "they are to be flown from staffs of the same height" and "the flags should be of approximately equal size" and "International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. "

The US flag receives special treatment in the sense that it is to be flown on the far left (as one faces the flags) or in the center position.

Honestly, there is no reason for "belief" or "disbelief" in any "urban legend". This is laid out in black and white in Title 4, Chapter 1 of the United States Code.

So sorry, you are in New Hampshire , end of conversation.