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03/22/08, 11:03 AM
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Best Truck for hauling
Hi there- We are in the market for a new(to us) pickup truck- we are looking at not spending more than $15-18K, But it has to be able to haul a 28ft stock trailer w/ 6-8 draft horses. My dad thinks we should get Diesel, but Hubby thinks that Gas is cheaper..... on my wishlist is crew cab or ext cab and has to be 4X4 (these WI winters!!) Do you think a Ford F250 or Chevy 2500 would be big enough? Thanx!
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03/22/08, 11:22 AM
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Depends how often and how far you're going to be hauling I guess. The guy who does my trucking has a Dodge 2500 Diesel, got it new last year. He ordered the basic truck, no trim package, AM radio, etc. Had to wait 6 months for delivery but it saved him almost $10,000 over the cheapest version available at the dealers already. He's pulling a 32' gooseneck doing custom trucking, probably spends 3 full days a week hauling cattle. He's hauled 14 Holstein cows for us without any hesitation.
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It would help if your location was posted on your header. a 3/4 ton truck would work fine but a 1 ton gives you a bit more margin for error. Id be more comfortable inthe 1 ton.
In these size trucks you can expect a gasser to do about 15 mpg unloaded and 10 mpg loaded with 3.55 rear differential ratio. a Diesel 17 unloaded and 15 loaded ,a chevy diesel about 1 less in each and a dodge about 1 more in each.
Changing the rear end to 4.11 ratio will drop the unloaded about 2 and a 4.55 about 3 .
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03/22/08, 01:36 PM
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Six to eight draft horses, I have a Hemi and I wouldn't even put it through that abuse.
A diesel, either Ford or Dodge are good choices. Not too many people running around with a goose-neck in a gasser.
It also depends on how much you haul. If it is just a weekend joy ride, yeah, get the gas truck. Most these days have 3.92 gears. But eight draft horses, it sounds like you have quite the opperation; I'd go diesel.
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03/22/08, 01:38 PM
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PS: Don't get a Chevy diesel! Go to any horse or cattle auction and everyone has either a Ford or Dodge...there is a reason for this!
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03/22/08, 01:46 PM
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We have a for f250 with a 7.3 diesel. Probably paid a little more than I wanted but all the other diesels had the smaller engine. My husband said that this engine has a better reputation than the smaller 6 (something) that ford is putting in now. Of course, since I do not know much about engines, he could have pulled the wool over my eyes 
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03/22/08, 01:50 PM
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This is a silly topic
kind of like a ford is better than a chevy .. A 3/4 ton is not enough truck period to haul a 28 foot trailer with 6-8 large 1500 pound plus horses in it. I would never pull that much weight without a dual rear end.
All manufacturers make a good truck.Just make sure you have enough truck to handle as well as stop that much load. Diesel fuel is more expensive.. But the power is there.
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03/22/08, 02:17 PM
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Dodge all the way. With a few tweaks you can really get the fuel economy up there. But no matter which was you go get a diesel. I like Dodge and Ford due to the fact you can run WVO in them.
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03/22/08, 02:36 PM
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Ford is the only way to go. I'd get a gasser, myself, but that's just me....
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03/22/08, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ericjeeper
I would never pull that much weight without a dual rear end.
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Why not?
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03/22/08, 02:46 PM
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We have two Dodge diesels, one 3/4 and a 1 ton dually. Both will pull big loads, we've hauled horses and cattle in both. The 1 ton is much more stable with a big load. Our 1 ton gets 17 mpg vs 20 mpg in the 3/4 ton.
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03/22/08, 03:28 PM
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If at all possible I'll never buy another Ford. My dad was Ford to the bone from the 1950's but even he switched before he died.
I have a Ford F350 oil burner which has been nothing but trouble. It started with the engine starting to go flaky then the transmission went. IF IT HAS AN E4OD TRANNY IN IT ***RUN AWAY***. You can tell if the overdrive button is on the end of the shift lever, RUN!
I do have a '64 Ford F350 that was a work horse but I need to let it die a peaceful death.
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03/22/08, 04:58 PM
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With the 6-8 draft horses and that size trailer you will pull the carp out of a 3/4 ton gas.
We pull a 36ft aluminum trailer/4 horse with a 1 ton GMC crewcab dually diesel. We can use the HD2500 gas but it has a lack of power going up hills. We tested a 2500 diesel and it did have more power but the dually won out for stability and eliminated sway.
We only use GMC trucks for pulling and yeah they are more expensive that is why you see so many Fords at the sale barn cause they are CHEAP in price but not repairs.
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I have a GMC 2500 with the tow package but I wouldn't want to haul a rig that big with it. Had a buddy that pulled heavy loads of round bales with his and didn't have a problem. But I'm a wuss when it comes to rolling down the highway with a big load.
Said buddy recently traded for a Ford 350 with a diesel in it. I would be much more comfortable running that.
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03/22/08, 05:12 PM
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I deliver trucks So I tend to be partial to whats under my butt.
But I notice the professional haulers drive about 50% dodge 40% ford and 10% chevy
Considering the general population drives these makes in a 50% chevy 34% ford 16% Dodge ratio I think that tells its own story. Go to a trailer toter terminal and look around some time.
The duramax has helped chevy immensly in the towing department.
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03/22/08, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthernWoods
PS: Don't get a Chevy diesel! Go to any horse or cattle auction and everyone has either a Ford or Dodge...there is a reason for this!
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And the reason is: The Ford and Dodge wheels will interchange, so if someone has a flat tire and no spare they can borrow a spare from the neighbor  Much better than walking  Home.
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03/22/08, 07:26 PM
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Are you planning on using this vehicle as a regular drive around vehicle also? Is it going to pull this trailer all of the time?
I would buy a good used simple diesel road tractor or 50-60 series truck if you're going to use it strictly for pulling this trailer and reasonably often. You're looking at 5-8k for a used truck that size. If it's going to be a ride around truck too then I'd go with a diesel pickup. A big engine gas burner is simple but will burn lots of gas and have little resale value. The good thing though is big engine gas duallys are cheap right now.
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03/22/08, 08:02 PM
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You'll want a diesel and I would go with a one ton dually for the stability. I never thought there was much difference with a dually from a single wheel one ton. But, I was wrong, if I was going to be pulling that size trialer it'd be with a dually.
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What is it with the Duals?
Ive drove hundreds (literaly hundreds) and I wouldnt want the hassel. Think ya need them to haul a big load? The Big new thing in Semi trucks is to dump the duals and go to singles. Now if I can pull 105,000 pounds with singles I bet you can pull your load too. Come to think of it last summer I saw a super oversize load on 19 axles (musta been over 250,000 pounds) and both the puller and the pusher trucks were on singles.
Honestly If we could figger out how do do it without tires at all every trucking company in the country would go for it!
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03/23/08, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by fantasymaker
What is it with the Duals?
Ive drove hundreds (literaly hundreds) and I wouldnt want the hassel. Think ya need them to haul a big load? The Big new thing in Semi trucks is to dump the duals and go to singles. Now if I can pull 105,000 pounds with singles I bet you can pull your load too. Come to think of it last summer I saw a super oversize load on 19 axles (musta been over 250,000 pounds) and both the puller and the pusher trucks were on singles.
Honestly If we could figger out how do do it without tires at all every trucking company in the country would go for it!
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Fantasy You have no idea how much more stable the dual rear tires make on a truck as far as stability.
You mention the singles on a semi.. Yeah but heck they are as wide as a set of duals.. So maybe we could see if Mickey Thompson will whip us up a set of E Rated G 50 for a 16 inch wheel?
Another good thing about a dual. You have a safety factor in the tire beside the other if one blows.Providing you pull over immediately and get it replaced.
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