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Old 01/16/08, 11:07 AM
 
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Question Keeping my dog in the yard...

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We lost our labrador about two years ago. She just laid down and died one day. Sad, but she was old, and would rather have seen her go like that than linger.

Last summer, someone dumped a black lab that was about 18 months old off on our road - a very common occurence around here. Beautiful dog. Wonderful disposition. Was already house broken. Great, right? She wont stay in the yard. Runs off as soon as you take her outside. Only way to get her to come home is to start the truck. When she hears it, she comes running and wants to go for a ride.

At this point, I am at a loss as to how to train her. Thought about both wired or wireless invisible fence systems. Any feedback on how they work? Not expecting them to work to contain her for hours, just so that she can be loose in the yard without a leash while we are out with her. Or to go to the bathroom at night. Thats my only goal.
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Old 01/16/08, 11:11 AM
 
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Is there a reason you can't have a regular fence? You can just fence an area in the backyard.
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Old 01/16/08, 11:12 AM
 
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An electric fence would work. Or you could try a shock collar and zap her everytime she starts to leave.
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Old 01/16/08, 11:31 AM
 
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Is there a reason you can't have a regular fence? You can just fence an area in the backyard.

Layout does not lend itself to a regular fence. Thought about that. The invisible fence concept sounds good, but don't want to spend money on something that doesn't work.
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Old 01/16/08, 11:43 AM
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The pet safe instant fence works like a charm. It is a box you put in a central location. The dog can go 90 ft max in all directions before it will chock them. The dog will have plenty of room to play. It will adjust to a smaller footage. It is expensive but for me it was the best solution.

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Old 01/16/08, 12:00 PM
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Try an obedience class or training so she will come when ever you call where ever you are. Does she know her new name yet? Call her name and give her pettings, her toy or a treat until when ever you say her name she will at least look at you. Then work on the "come" part. Call her name in a real happy voice usually while squatting down with your arms out at the beginning. Call her name and then say "come" after so she will learn what the command is. When she comes give her a treat and pettings. Do that for five minutes a day about four or five times a day and within several days when you call her she will show up immediately. If she won't stick around long enough for this then start the training with her on a really long line. If necessary reel her in by the line while calling her name in a happy voice until she clues in about what is going on.

If she will come when called, then for the next several weeks when you let her out call her back as soon as she gets to the perimeter of her new area. She should have it figured out by then but since she has been running where ever she wants since last summer it might take longer since by now that's the way she thinks things should be.
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Old 01/16/08, 12:02 PM
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How about a cable attached to two trees or posts with a line so that the dog can run back and forth? We used to have one of these and one end would just reach the door to hook the dog up to go outside. Has that been tried?

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Old 01/16/08, 12:38 PM
 
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Hi! sounds like you lucked into a wonderful dog! However she is just a dog and it also sounds like that is why she was "dumped" or maybe was on one of her "walk abouts" when she was lucky to encounter you.

I can tell you this. I have been a Vet Tech all of my working life and I am now older than dirt! I also am a Foster home for rescues. I couldn't tell you how many sad, dead dogs we had to stuff in our freezer for "disposal" later after they had run out and gotten lost, hit by cars, attacked by feral dog packs or shot by some irate home owner. These dogs had the "invisable fence" crap, or a number of other electronic garbage that was suppose to keep them in. Snort!!

These so called solutions are for the lazy person and they only work as long as the dog does not see/smell/hear something that is so interesting they just blow right through or out of the "control" zone. Many breeds are known for this, Labs being one of them. Of course they are! They are Hunting dogs! Bred to brave the coldest water and the roughest conditions to attain the goal. if they are lucky enough to have savvy owners who use all that strong drive and intelligence to teach them "goals" , they will be a wonderful dog. If not, well, then you get a roamer who is bull headed and useless.

There are some solutions for you. One, you can put up a dog run. It must be "SECURE", and that means taking the trouble to put a dig proof floor on it and an "escape proof "top. You can use paving steps like I do or cement a flooring or lay down chain link on the ground. Put on a tough cover of chain link just like the sides. Mine came from Home Depot in a kit, I just had them add a second "side" that I used for the top.

Needless to say your dog should be in this run unless you are out there with it and the dog should be on a lead or long line until the dog has been taught a fool proof recall and has bonded to you! Then, you must put in the time to give the dog LOTS of exercise and training....remember this is a hunting breed with all of that drive and ambition. The are bred to DO, not to lay around. And the dog needs plenty of "people interaction" along with this work, work, work. PLay ball a lot and teach it to fetch if it doen't already know how to do this. You will have to start on long line. Take it swimming in appropriate weather. Weil, for Labs having to break the ice on the water is "appropriate" before jumping in. LOL

There are good books on dog training! Get a couple of good ones and have fun with them and use those brains and potential that this dog has!

One tip about chain link dog runs. For 99 % of dogs they are great. But for that one percent that WILL NOT be confined, a chain link dog run will not hold even a small determined dog. These dogs must have a solid tough wall up to 3 feet high all around the inside of the run to keep them from chewing through the wire. Been there, done that. And it was a tiny little OLD Cattle dog foster that did not weigh 25 lbs soaking wet that went right through that chain link! I couldn't believe it!

The other solution might be a dog pen. But these will be uncovered and with no dig proof surfacing. Not knowing if this dog is an "Escape artist", don't know of course if just a pen would work. Don't tie up the dog! This a bad thing to do and most dogs suffer psychological damage if they are tied out.

I have regular visitors here who come to play with my three cattle dogs. These three dogs are Labs(two blacks and a yellow). Along with their owner they come for a day of fun swimming in the pond or in the summer, in the river with my three dogs. They are wonderful dogs! All three have been trained for Field Trials and are soooo smart and beautiful! They all SIT, DOWN, FETCH, HEEL, DOWN. LOAD UP(in the truck) and do it as a trio. I just love to have them come to see me.

Good luck and I hope all goes well for you and your new dog.

LQ and her trio of fur kids. LOL
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Old 01/16/08, 01:13 PM
 
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they only work as long as the dog does not see/smell/hear something that is so interesting they just blow right through or out of the "control" zone.
Yeah, that is exactly what I am afraid of. Don't want something that I can just turn her out in for the day. Just something to help to remind her of the boundaries while we are out in the yard with her. Have had dogs for years. Was always able to keep them in the yard by simply conditioning them to know the boundaries. Don't want to confine this dog in a run. She needs much more exercise than that.
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Put up a cable and let her have the space between the house and whatever tree you attach the other end to. This will suffice for potty breaks and other short times outside. You need to boundary train her, but I doubt you will be able to unless you give her a lot of exercise. Get up a little earlier and take the dog for a walk in the woods every morning. You will need to put a long line on her, but I'm sure she would like to stay near you on your walk. While on your walk, keep calling the dog to you and letting her go. Once she's reliable on the recall in the woods, add sit and down. When you take her out without the line, practice the recall, sit, and down all over your property and in the woods. Dogs do not generalize, so if she is trained in the yard, she will forget everything once she is beyond the yard and will not come when called.

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Old 01/16/08, 05:54 PM
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go with an invisible fence.,

We love our boxer.. and do not wish for him to run off or get hit by a car. I have over 3 acres fenced in for him..He knows where his boundaries are and stays within.He does not always wear his collar..
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Old 01/16/08, 06:05 PM
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Sounds like the dog is already trained. You said she comes when she hears the truck start up!

We have dogs trained like that too. Our solution was to fence in a LARGE protion of the back yard for the dogs to play in, plus hubby walks them daily taking the same route every day so they learn their boundaries.
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Old 01/16/08, 09:29 PM
 
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my lab Chad is 3 years old he will stay in the yard for weeks at a time .then he will be gone with his buddys for a while always comes back covered in mud from head to tail, and i mean mud. when i want him i start my truck and some times have to drive it to pick him up. always in the same spot with the same buds. i'd not worry but the roads here are bad on dogs and cats cows and such. he knows where he lives and is in need of drinks and food every few hours. all so a chain saw brings him home in a hurry.

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Old 01/17/08, 01:38 PM
 
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I have a heeler/aussie mix that blows through invisible fences like they are...invisible... he'll go through them after rabbits, then sit on the outside whinning to get in & home. Silly dog!

They're good for some dogs, not all. I even shaved his neck & got longer prongs for a good contact. Finally had to put up a real fence.

Good luck!
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