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Old 11/21/07, 12:52 AM
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Installing cattle panels

I need to fence a small back yard NOW. How do yo install cattle panels? This will hold 1 dog and 1 puppy. I'll get the small square openings and I already have everything to electify it. Can a woman and 2 girls install it?will only need 5-6 panels for this small area.
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Old 11/21/07, 01:05 AM
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Yah you would be able to do it. All you would need is a couple post per panel just to hold them up
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Old 11/21/07, 02:17 AM
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I already have everything to electify it.
Electrify cattle panels??? Its possible of course since they are steel, but if you use steel posts, you would have to somehow set the panels onto insulators or the steel posts would ground it out. Then you would have to keep any grass or weeds from touching it. You could use wood posts and directly nail it, dry wood is an insulator, but water isnt and wood posts get wet, and so you really would have to use insulators on wood posts also.

If you are going to trouble of buying panels with the small openings then I really doubt you need to electrify the fence. And if you arent going to electrify it, just drive the posts and wire the panels to the posts and you can do it. As they say, its not rocket science.
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Old 11/21/07, 05:31 AM
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I agree with Hermit John. Electrifying cattle panels would be a major undertaking. Probably overkill for a dog and puppy as well.
If you request "Combo Panels"as opposed to "Cattle Panels" you will have smaller rectangles on lower third of panel that will do a better job of holding in puppies.
Install as suggested above. Yes, You can do it!
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Old 11/21/07, 05:43 AM
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one caution sancraft, make sure the t posts will not cut any lines or cables! some people might have trouble installing this but doubt you and the girls will have any!. you can get wire called "corn crib" that is better for dog pens, 2x4 welded is another name of it.
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Old 11/21/07, 06:28 AM
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Here's the step by step.

Call the local number for "call before you dig." You need to know where your gas lines and underground wires are. The last thing you need to do is hit phone or gas or electric lines.

Get T posts and a driver. The driver is a pipe with an end welded shut. You slip it over the top of the T post and slide it up, then let it fall, driving the post into the ground a few inches at a time. Some folks slam it down by pulling, but that's a good way to pull shoulder muscles, too.

Put in your posts, wire your cattle panels to them.

You can run a hot wire just inside the cattle panels, at about dog nose height, but you don't electrify the cattle panels themselves.
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Old 11/21/07, 09:03 AM
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Well, I used cattle panels and discovered the installation is different depending on the size and behavior of the animals you want to keep in (or out). The first thing I did was decide what I wanted to do, i.e. keep my animals in a particular area or keep predators out of that certain area. (In my case it was to protect my breeding does from my 250 lb aggressive breeding bucks.) This determins which side of the posts you put the panel on. I put mine on the inside of the buck pen (to keep bucks inside) and outside of doe pen (to keep bucks outside). I used wooden post (noway would I electrify fencing on our homestead). Then I measured the distances and placed each post where I would wind up with one at each end of the panel and one in the middle of each panel. Then I got screw-on clamps (forgot name but can be attached in such a way as to hold 2 different panels together tightly), galvanized of course and with 2 bolts to tighten them. I used "barbed" staples to attach panels to posts. I kept the panels about 2 inches off the ground. (If your dogs dig, just place some flat rock along the bottoms of this fence to deter this digging. If your dogs are jumpers or climbers, you might consider placing pieces of regular fencing "loose" along the top so they have nothing stable to catch as they leap or climb.)

This fence has been up and working fine now for several years despite the pressure my bucks put on it.
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Old 11/21/07, 09:53 AM
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To put up a super fast fence for immediate use you can bend the panels into a curve and tie them to each other. They will stand without the posts as long as they are either curved or a square of 4 panels. That will keep the dogs penned until you can buy the posts and driver to make a permanent fence. The only way in and out of the pen would be to use a ladder or very carefully climb the fence.
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Old 11/21/07, 10:39 AM
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I know one fellow who is trying an electrified panel hog pen. He slid PVC pipe over the steel stakes then secured the panels to the PVC by use of hose clamps. The plastic pipe extends down to the top of the spade of the post I believe. The panels are thus electrically insulated, the PVC can't sink any further into the ground, and the steel stake in the middle gives the entire thing the necessary structural rigidity.

On the face of it I don't see any reason why it wouldnt' work. I'll be keeping an eye open to see how it actually pans out.

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I agree with putting up the cattle panels, then running a couple of hot wires just outside the fencing. I'm assuming that you are trying to keep animals out of your dog pen. If one of the dogs is a climber, run a wire a few inches above the panels so he get's zapped when he tries to scale. You don't want anything scaling cattle fencing as it will bend. If you have a digger, you'll need to lay chicken fencing on the ground under the cattle fencing.
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Old 11/21/07, 01:13 PM
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I know horse panels are expensive, here in KY they cost around 44.00 each. But the openings are 2 x 4. Even my little dogs can't fit through those! Just an idea. Mary.
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Old 11/21/07, 01:24 PM
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Field fence would be a LOT cheaper
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Old 11/24/07, 07:34 AM
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Not worried about my dogs leaving. I'm more woriied about the strays coming over. I want to bring my dog home from the land and he's a great dog. THe best farm dog I've ever had. THe people arond here le their dogs run loose or "walK" them without leases. I don't want them to send some pitbull over to kill my American Eskimo dog or the puppy, for the "fun" of it. I like the idea of running a wire on the outside.
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To electrify it, I would suggest the "stand off insulator" that is about 6" long that will clip to a T post, wire the panel to the T post, and then clip on the insulator and run the wire and energize it.



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they also make them for wood posts that nail on,
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I have dealt with Valley vet, and have had good service,
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