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11/03/07, 08:45 PM
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This happened to me today/ Auction
Took 62 rabbits of 4 generations, does, bucks, fryers, most vreeds and colors. Got $44 for them after 20% commission fee. put $26 in gas at same place I gassed up last night. With drink and a sandwich at the auction $3. I figure I cleared $16. I saw Buff Oephington hens ready to lay (so they said) sell for $10. They had a cage with 10 in it, a cage with 20, and a cage with 30. Some guy bought all 60, at $10 ea. $600?????????????????????????????
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11/03/07, 08:50 PM
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You could have fed your family (or dogs) and done better. Bummer!
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11/03/07, 09:48 PM
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Were the rabbits sold as a lot, individual, or groups? I used to get $5 to $8 for mine if I auctioned them, and always did individual...But haven't raised rabbits for a long time now.
$600 for chickens??!!!  I got my first ones, 1 year old black sexlinks, for $1.00 each!
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11/03/07, 10:51 PM
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FBB, almost as bad as carrying a 400lb boar to auction, and not making enough to pay for the fuel and commission fees.
Sorry about the bum deal ya got...
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11/03/07, 11:51 PM
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FarmBoyBill, I was going to that sale today, but we couldn't make it. Been there, done that, except with old english chickens. Usually, you feel like you gave them away, considering time and material to make the containers, mileage,(100 miles one way), 20% commission, and having to leave at 6.00 am. In spite of all that, I still brought them because I wanted to go anyway. That is one big sale. I think a guy or gal could find just about anything he wanted there. I live too far away to go on a regular basis, but I enjoy it. Most stuff is pretty cheap. After reading back over this, I'm kind of glad I didn't go now.
texican, one time I sold a young registered Duroc boar, two years old, and I mean a good one. I made the mistake of leaving him, to sale a few hours later, to drive back home 75 miles. I made gas money. I couldn't believe what he brought. I told our ag teacher who was a very good pig man. I heard about that for a long time.
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11/04/07, 07:45 AM
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In Remembrance
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Prices
I hear where you are coming from.
Farmers began burning corn in their stoves over a century ago because of paltry prices. Today potato farmers sometimes plow under their crop yield as the fertilizer value in the spuds is worth more than what they bring as potatoes.
The last wheat I raised brought so little I dumped on the ground what was in the combine bin rather than haul it to the elevator. It was what wouldn't fit on the prior load. I'm sure the wild animals appreciated it.
As to your sale I would say that your supply for the market was too great hence the lower prices. While you would have incurred costs many times over selling off in smaller batches would have probably yielded more per animal, still not cost effective.
It isn't unusual to hear old time stories of farmers simply shooting and burying animals rather than take a loss by selling them or continue to feed them. Farming and markets just aren't right with so many middlemen in between the end results.
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11/04/07, 08:48 AM
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I would sqy I sold them close to thirds
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Were the rabbits sold as a lot, individual, or groups? I used to get $5 to $8 for mine if I auctioned them, and always did individual...But haven't raised rabbits for a long time now.
$600 for chickens??!!!  I got my first ones, 1 year old black sexlinks, for $1.00 each!
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1/3 as individuals, 1/3 in groups of 2, and a third in groups of 3 or 4
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11/04/07, 02:24 PM
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Supply Demand and luck just think hat the chicken guy is saying about the sale!
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11/04/07, 04:18 PM
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I had a little better luck at our auction yesterday. I had bought two does back in the summer when it was hot and they were cheap($1.50 each) Sold one for $10 and one for $5.50. I wasn't expecting to get that much but was sure glad to get it!
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11/04/07, 04:42 PM
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Sorry for the thread drift, but could I ask FarmBoyBill and Bricker what auction they're referring to? I want to buy some livestock in the early spring, so maybe I need to check this out. Sorry for your lousy day, Bill. Thanks!
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11/04/07, 06:09 PM
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FBB, the poor sales prices are just due to timing. Spring, or certain holidays is likely to present better opportunities. Were these pets or butchers? For pets, close to Christmas ,Valentine's, Easter. For butchers, you ought to look into selling directly to a rabbit processor. Stock that sells for high prices will also sell low at certain times of year.
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11/04/07, 07:03 PM
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The auction on HWY 412 E of Tulsa 20 miles or so. S side of Hwy
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Sorry for the thread drift, but could I ask FarmBoyBill and Bricker what auction they're referring to? I want to buy some livestock in the early spring, so maybe I need to check this out. Sorry for your lousy day, Bill. Thanks! 
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Its HUGE. I saw only one table saw, which was one of the thing I wanted to buy, but I would have had to been there till 7 at night so I said heck with it. I also wanted to get up to a doz chickens, but when I saw them goin for 10 I said heck with that also. Ill raise me up 150 chicks or so late next spring.
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11/04/07, 07:08 PM
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Its the first Sat of every month
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Its HUGE. I saw only one table saw, which was one of the thing I wanted to buy, but I would have had to been there till 7 at night so I said heck with it. I also wanted to get up to a doz chickens, but when I saw them goin for 10 I said heck with that also. Ill raise me up 150 chicks or so late next spring.
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The only livestock they have there usually is a slug of chickens and rabbits, maybe a couple doz turkeys, maybe 50 guinies, mayby a couple doz pidgons, maybe a doz parakeets,
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11/04/07, 07:19 PM
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It is a real bummer when someone else runs up the price on something you are bidding on. I just payed way more for a wood fired boil, cause there was another bidder. If he wasen't ther could have saved me prolly 500 bucks. If I knew his limit could have given him 50 bucks to walk away and saved me 450....
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11/04/07, 07:25 PM
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The only livestock they have there usually is a slug of chickens and rabbits, maybe a couple doz turkeys, maybe 50 guinies, mayby a couple doz pidgons, maybe a doz parakeets,
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Been there, done that! Just seems for some reason rabbits don't go for a whole lot around here. I got my kids in the rabbit business. Kind of figured it would give them some responsibility and they could keep all the money they make off of them. I bought something like 6 does, 2 bucks, along with 5 rabbit hutches all for $150. Started breeding them and put signs up advertising fryers and pets and the only time they would be in demand was around Easter. Decided to sell out and placed a ad in the paper and no one ever called. Ended up just turning them lose in the back of our place and let them fend for theirselves. They lasted about a week and a half and was never seen again.
I still have a ton of fryers in the freezer. Need to get rid of them as they have been in there about 1 1/2 years now.
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11/04/07, 08:21 PM
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Thanks Bill! I'll check it out. Again, sorry for your lousy experience.
r.h. - too bad my brother-in-law isn't down here. He could probably keep you singlehandedly in the rabbit business, lol. He lives in Denver and can't hardly find them anywhere.
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11/04/07, 08:44 PM
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Livestock Auctions are an easy way to sell your production. Running an ad in the newspapers is costly and you never know if you'll get results. Spending a couple days in a Flea Market is time costly. Sometimes you hit it when there is a demand, sometimes not. Before you bring the rabbits, check the market. Heck, check the market before you throw the doe in with the buck.
This year, due to extreme dry conditions that reduced the hay crop, lots of farmers are bringing all their feeder calves to the Auctions, not holding any back for replacements. The extra calves on the market and no one that has the extra hay to feed those calves to buy them has really pushed the prices down. Even more so with horses. Lack of killer market and poor economy and high hay prices have pushed horse values way down. I saw several hundred draft horses sell last week. Some nice 8 month old colts went for under $300. Saw a sound 18 year old broke to drive mare go for $25.
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11/07/07, 09:27 AM
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I got beat up on rabbits last week too. I only sold 5 2-3 lb NZWs and netted 7 bucks. I seem to do much better on rabbits if I sell them very young, in large lots. The local small animal auction takes 20% plus $1 per box. It was cold, which always hurts, but I wanted to get rid of them, mine are free range and if I keep them over winter they will destroy the paddock, and it wasn't worth my time to butcher them. I am hauling a goat down to the large animal sale today, never done that before but at least the only take 4.50 per goat no matter what it sells for. I am guessing I will get 50-60 bucks, which is barely worth it, but the wife says I can't eat this goat because she is attached. I could wait and continue marketing her, but between the feed and the hassle, I don't thing the extra 20 bucks or so it worth it. I never auction the larger ticket stuff if I can help it, as you never know what you are going to get. I prefer to run ads on craigslist and a free classified paper in the area.
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11/07/07, 12:33 PM
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I have a friend who sold rabbits a few years ago. She made at least $50 on every one, even babies. Many went for $300. She raised premium fiber Angora rabbits and went to maybe three shows every year. Her rabbits won blue ribbons. Once she had a reputation established, people called her looking for rabbits. I realize this is more trouble than bringing rabbits to auction, but she made money on the deal, and had premium fiber to spin herself or sell.
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11/07/07, 04:14 PM
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That would be considered highway robbery where I live. 9's about as high as it gets.
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