What older model of tractor for 85-100Hp

[okiemom]

We are going to be looking for a tractor to do some rock removal and pasture renovation and possibable haying/ seeding.

We want something that we won't have to worry it is under powered. I will need 2 remote hydrolics for the rock eq. A loader would be nice. we do have one on our New Holland 33hp.

We are not going to trade in the NH for this tractor. It is too usefull and it travels to family around the state.

What older tractor that dosen't cost $50,000 and have every electronic gaget would be good to look at? I found a 120HP 1960 model Case(?) that was still working well but maybe not really pretty. 6 cyl diesel. no loader. It was $6,800. Tires were fair.

What tractor would be easiest to find parts and repair? What should I look out for? Thanks all.

[travlnusa]

What dealers are around you? I would use that a a guide for locating parts in the future.

Does the Case you are looking at have the Case-O-Matic transmission, or standard trans?

I try to avoid to many "fanyc features" as they are harder, and more money, to fix.

[michiganfarmer]

My dad bought an International 3088 this summer. Its 10 years old. Its 90 hp. It only had 4000 hours on it. It cost him $10,000.

The john deere 4020 is a good 100 horse tractor. They cost around $10,000.

There are lot of ford guys here. Ive seen them talk about 80-100 horse fords costing under $10,000, but I dont know any model numbers.

I guess massy makes a pretty decent tractor, but again, I dontknow any model numbers.

Case made a 100 horse tractor. Its model 1070. They can be had for well under $10,000 quite often.

John Deere made an 85 horse 2 cylinder. It was the biggest 2 cylider they made. Its model number is 820, but it doesnt have any 3 point, and it isnt made for a loader.

[fordson major]

white made a good tractor in that range. nice slowable trany and lots of hydraulic power. case i would avoid, heard of too many cranks breaking in the older models. depends on what your picker/rake needs for hydraulic flow as the others have said, what dealers do you have around? while i have ford/new holland myself find them a little fast too do some jobs, stone picing is one of them! one of the nicest slow speed hy hydraulic tractors i ran across is a repowered allis chalmers, one of the last tractors they built the engine had gone out at 2000 hours, farmer repowered with a cummins diesel.

[DaleK]

A White 2-105 would be a good tractor as long as it was in good shape. AC 200 or 7000 would be about right too.

[Jennifer L.]

Don't even think about anything foreign that will need parts. I've got a SAME Taurus from 1979 that the local equipment place can hardly get parts for. It needs an engine rebuild now and it's on hold until they come up with them, and it's been 6 months now.

Personally, I'd be looking for an older International.

Jennifer

[uncle Will in In.]

If the rocks are too large for your New Holland, you need a backhoe to dig them out or better yet just bury them where the are. Case 580 backhoes are the most popular in the older hoes. They run from $10,000 on up. They have heavy duty loaders on them, but are not much use for farming work. If you want earth moved they are better tha any older farm tractor regardless of horse power.

[Drizler]

You should be able to do it with the New Holland. I assume its a 4wd. It will do much the same work as a larger farm type tractor. That small tractor is damned versatile and while it is only capable of smaller implements just what are you going to expect from the bigger one beyond that. I run a 7' blade behind my 26 hp 1950 TO -20 and I wouldn't trade it for the world unless you wanna swap me that New holland. For the $$$ you tie up in another tractor you could very well be better served using it to assist someone you farmed it out to with heavy duty equipment. I say this cause I been there done all that and would like to kick myself for not just paying someone to doze it then rake it down with my own rake. I am talking a few hundred hours of chain saw and d-4 work that I could have farmed out for 4- 5K and been so far ahead right now. Worst of all once you burn out you won't want to go near it again and there it sits. Nearly all farmers have a d-6 or bigass excavator these days and often a 15 year old son lookin for a few bucks, the sort that goes into the pocket between agreeable neighbors. I can't speak to what sort of ground you have there but here we have ledge and more ledge intermixed with roundheads.
If its nice soft farmland grown over forget what I said but if its not give farming it out some thought. You may not think you have the money all at once and when you are done you have the tractor rather than just giving money to another guy but let me tell you as one who thinks that way its not always worth it. If you have nasty rocky stuff especially ledge a D6 or 8 is going to get more done in a day with a ripper than you will in 3 months of part time work using an old tractor and fixing it. The work will be much nicer and leveler too. BTW if you see the Track Fairy send him to my place I need him and will leave a couple $100 bills under the busted link. Then come by my place and I will give you 5 grand to finish my pasture / runway. Just my personal 2 cents based on typical experience. I don't mean to dampen your spirit of DIY but sometimes its just better to direct your energies elsewhere. If its just simple grading and stone collection that 33 diesel should handle a 6-7' rock rake like nothing.

[unioncreek]

Go over to Yesterday's Tractor website www.ytmag.com . On the left side is the "Photo Ads" look in there and you will see plenty of tractors and get an idea of what they are worth. I would say for less than $10K you can get a pretty darn good tractor with loader.

Bobg

[Up North]

I would look at any of the following models:
International Harvestor 826, 856, 966, 1066, 986, 1086 (all Diesel)
Case 970, 1070, 2090, 2290
JD 4010, 4020, 4320, 4230, 4430, 4630
If you are going to pull rock handling equipment you want 38" rear wheels and a tractor with some serious iron in the chassis and rear end. Rear wheel duals would be an asset as well.
Any of the above would be pre-computer and can be found in the $15,000 and less price range.
2wd Row Crop tractors from 120 to 160 HP are a good value for the money at this point in time.

[rambler]

In addition to UpNorth's excellent list:

Ford 7000/7700. Their 8 & 9000 series became the TW10 & Tw20 and are a bit bigger, but all good for the money as well.


I would get something with a good dealer near by.

Each tractor has good and bad features. The IH tractors have a weak TA, but they are pretty cheap to fix so if you buy one cheap & busted, you will have a real good tractor you can trust. The JD 4020 is the most looked for tractor, & you can always resell that one for what you paid for it. The TW Fords have weak power steering, and the whole line had the pto go weak every 5000 hours.

I'm not familiar with Case, but they have their known issues too.

You can pay top dollar for one in top shape, or you can buy one cheap with the known weakness already weak, get it repaired, and be good to go for about the same money.....

--->Paul

[okiemom]

Thanks for the info. I found several dealers w/in 2.5 hrs of Tulsa that specialize in older tractors. TractorHouse.com has been helpfull.

If I find an older tractor that is in good running shape but need "pretty" work like pain to protect the rest of the metal, how much could that cost. I am not talking a true restoration but One that will make it last longer but maybe also add a little grace back to the old tractor.

I have also seen a lot of White tractors. Who are they and who bought them out? I have not heard huch about them.

[unioncreek]

If you find a tractor needing cosmetic work you can by tractor paint at farm dealers. It's not the best paint, but it does a good job.

Oliver tractors became White, I don't know if they are still made, but AGCO would be my guess.

Bobg

[Ross]

Best older tractor in the 85-110hp range? Well I bleed Ford blue but the best in class, best supported (assuming you have a near dealer and maybe even if you don't) and best for the buck..... JD 3130 Might even get a 3140 for the same money. In decent shape you can't go wrong.

[agmantoo]

An older IH such as the 986, great tractors and parts are available should you need something which is unlikely if you take care of a good one.

[wewantout]

My first question is why 100 hp? Good gearing would suit you well. THere ae many old diesels out there that have great gearing. my family has several new John Deers' and they do fine on working the 14000 acres they have. But for day to day small farm work, they still run the heck out of the Ford 9N and 8N they have.

[wewantout]

Wait sorry just re-read the post. How about renting one or paying someone to help you do it with their tractor?

[Jolly]

You can always get parts for a Deere.

Paint ain't hard to come by, either.

[Up North]

First is with the Hot summers you get in OK, you may want to get Air conditioning with a cab. If so the 986,1086 IH series or the 4230, 4430, 4630 Deere series, and I suppose the Ford Models in those years have a more quiet, air-sealing cab which will function better with Air Conditioning.
Otherwise get a tractor with no cab at all and let the wind blow across you.

Second, for heavy tillage and pulling rock equipment, you would be better served to stick with the Straight gearshift models. For example, look for the Synchro-Range or Quad Transmissions in Deere, models, instead of the Powershift. In IH models, avoid the Hydrostatic Drive models for the use you have in mind.(Like the Hydro 100, which is a hydrostatic version of a 986)
Case had Powershift or straight Gearshift models, again the straight gearshift models would best suit your application.
And so on for the other brands as well.

The White are a reasonable tractor, but I would look for one with the Cummins Diesel engine. The Oliver became the White then both absorbed by the AGCO Corporation, who also absorbed Allis Chalmers and Massey Ferguson Tractors.(At least the ones marketed in the U.S.)

[Up North]

Originally Posted by Ross

Best older tractor in the 85-110hp range? Well I bleed Ford blue but the best in class, best supported (assuming you have a near dealer and maybe even if you don't) and best for the buck..... JD 3130 Might even get a 3140 for the same money. In decent shape you can't go wrong.

Ross I'm wondering if the Tractors marketed in Canada maybe had different model numbers assigned than here in the US?...Don't recognize the 3130/3140 numbers.