about chicken manure on corn ground.

[FarmboyBill]

I got some pages from Okla Extension about people having the stuff to sell. My question is, they have n/a listed several times. What does that mean? #2 whats the difference tween broiler, turkey, breeder, layer, and pullet manure? I know some is ultra soft, and some is pretty dusty. What do I want for corn?they have under the amount certain amounts of tons. What does that mean

[holleegee]

n/a = not available
Do you have a link to the article?

[chris30523]

I can tell you about breeder hen manure. In our houses it accumulates for 10 months . If it is spread in the summer it stinks to high heaven (smells like a backed up sewer) attracts buzzards and flies and will stink every time it rains for awhile. We clean out in Nov.and spread in the fall and it doesn't stink too bad . In the spring we grow some great grass and by summer I have poke weed 10 feet tall. It is very high in nitrogen and can make the soil deficent in zinc .It can be wet ,depending on the hen houses, or dry and dusty. I don't know about ton's ? We sell ours by the spreader truck load it runs about 35$ a load depending on how far it is hauled . We spread on a silage corn field and the corn grows great .well there you go..everything you wanted to know about hen poop

[travlnusa]

I know what you mean about the smell. Neighbors use it each spring.

Part of country living.

[FarmboyBill]

Originally Posted by chris30523

I can tell you about breeder hen manure. In our houses it accumulates for 10 months . If it is spread in the summer it stinks to high heaven (smells like a backed up sewer) attracts buzzards and flies and will stink every time it rains for awhile. We clean out in Nov.and spread in the fall and it doesn't stink too bad . In the spring we grow some great grass and by summer I have poke weed 10 feet tall. It is very high in nitrogen and can make the soil deficent in zinc .It can be wet ,depending on the hen houses, or dry and dusty. I don't know about ton's ? We sell ours by the spreader truck load it runs about 35$ a load depending on how far it is hauled . We spread on a silage corn field and the corn grows great .well there you go..everything you wanted to know about hen poop

U say you sell at $35 a load. How many tons in tht load, and how many miles will you drive at that rate. They hae this rates, $6/150 tons, $6-10/300-400 tons, 10/300-400, $12/negotable, 1000 tons/yr, $12.50/400 tons. , and so on. Whatsa that mean??

[chris30523]

You got me?? You know us southerners the simpler the better. We only deliver within about a 15 mile radius. Its a spreader truck ? It weighs more the wetter the litter ? Around here you get so many loads per acre depending on the lay of the land I have never had anyone ask how many tons were in a load?

[agmantoo]

There are significant differences based on the source, broiler litter is a lot of shavings and less manure, layer houses are almost pure manure except for the shaving in the ailse. Layer litter will also have calcium and thus provide lime. Prices vary depending on the nutrient available. The example you gave $6-10/300-400 is $6 to $10 per ton and the tonage available is 300 to 400 tons and they want you to take it all. I pay $35 for a single axle truck fully loaded. I estimate that there is approximately 6 tons of layer manure on the truck. Additionally I pay a mileage adder since I have it tranported 7 miles. It stinks, but not as bad IMO as others stated. The smell is gone within 3 to 4 days. Dead chickens and rats in the manure are what attract the buzzards. Out of a layer house the biggest annoyance I have is the broken wood slats that have an occasional nail to get in a tractor tire. Depending on the source and their house keeping practices you can get trash also. I do not litter the farm so that perturbs me. Chicken manure is good stuff, it will grow grass better than anything I can apply.

[rambler]

I don't know.

You want a sample of the stuff tested. You want to know how much N, P, & K you are buying. Amount of water will have a big impact on what you are getting. The different types of manure will tend to have different levels of fertilizer, and be worth more or less to you. I am not familar with the stuff so can't tell you which tends to be what.

Typically the manure itself is about free, but the cost is in loading it, and hauling it. It is difficult to haul very far.

Typically you will get _way_ too much P on the ground if you put enough tons per acre to get enough N for a corn crop. The govt is getting pretty testy about this, and if you don't already have rules about this, you soon will. We need to test our soils here in MN and apply manure so as not to build up the P too high. Just something to be a ware of.

This web site is one of many that might help you, it has a chart of common fert values from the different types. According to that, 2 tons an acre would be as much P as I could use; and 3-4 tons would give me all the N I would want if no one kills me over the P issue. Typically here you put on fertilizer for corn, the following year the beans use what is left so you are applying fert for 2 years at a time.

Incorporate it! Much better.

Manure typically has a multi-year factor, some of the N and any left over P & K will be around for next year. Typically N goes away, but manure will gibe you 10-25% N the following year as well.

D'oh, almost forgot the site:

http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/poultry/424-034/424-034.html

--->Paul

[chris30523]

I agree with Agman .The trash is irritating. We don't throw trash under the slats but have had trouble this year with people working in the houses doing so?? I spread litter on my own fields and don't want the extra work of picking up trash . How hard is it to throw it in the asile and pick it up on the way out As to the smell I have to disagree (maybe my smeller is too sensitive) I spend 7 days a week inside the houses so you would think I would be used to it. As long as you don't spread in the summer it isn't too bad. It is worth the smell for the grass though. We have not had problems with too much of one mineral and not enough of the other so far. We do have to send soil and litter samples to the ag dept yearly. Pound for pound I am pretty sure it is cheaper and more effective than chemical fertilizer.

[fishhead]

Also if you incorporate it as soon as you can it should conserve more of the N on top of capping the smell.

[daycab]

I can have broiler litter spread for $135 per load. 1 load covers 4 acres.