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My mini barn packages apprashied
I guess this is close if not over the glouting line. I have been offering Mini Barn packages for 1500 dollars. One of the packages was just apprasied by two contractors to duplicate. The first gave a $9000 bid and the second if they would delete the loft will do it for $5600. Being that I will furnish everything for $1500 except the labor nails and glue I probably need to raise my price. These take from one too three days to build. Thats a pretty good gain.
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03/01/07, 02:19 PM
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your price sounds fair do you sell in MO? 
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03/01/07, 02:44 PM
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So can you explain a little more about your operation?
Do you just cut all wood to length, and sell it as a kit?
Do you assemble any of the shed?
Years ago, I came up with an idea to pre-assemble sheds in sections or wall units in my garage, then either sell the package unassembled, or for more money, I would assemble it on your sight. I had three or four relatives laugh at my idea...that it would never work. There are some pretty big companies specializing in sheds and barns, and do it as I described.
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03/01/07, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by clovis
Years ago, I came up with an idea to pre-assemble sheds in sections or wall units in my garage, then either sell the package unassembled, or for more money, I would assemble it on your sight. I had three or four relatives laugh at my idea...that it would never work. There are some pretty big companies specializing in sheds and barns, and do it as I described.
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Green gables used to make portable chicken houses. Unbolt the sections, throw them on a hay wagon and move to the next place. I have even seen them fixed up as houses with people living in them. They looked pretty good from the outside if maybe a little small.
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03/01/07, 03:25 PM
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Do you have a website? What size do you get for 1500?
Hmm, need to see how far away Woodbury is..
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03/01/07, 04:02 PM
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Yes, please do tell more. We may be in the market for one soon and Woodbury isn't too far from Christiana.
Do you have any pics of already assembled ones?
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03/01/07, 04:09 PM
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In new construction, tangibles are at average 40%, the remainder is labor, profit, taxes, unexpected cost over rides, ect.
In remodeling tangibles are time and material, plus 300%, just to break even.
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03/01/07, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by just_sawing
I guess this is close if not over the glouting line. I have been offering Mini Barn packages for 1500 dollars. One of the packages was just apprasied by two contractors to duplicate. The first gave a $9000 bid and the second if they would delete the loft will do it for $5600. Being that I will furnish everything for $1500 except the labor nails and glue I probably need to raise my price. These take from one too three days to build. Thats a pretty good gain.
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Yeah, my brother and I look at what Home Depot is selling for $7K to 9K, and we believe we could make $2K each per week (and a short week at that) building the same thing in someone's back yard. Another brother has a band saw mill that could provide the lumber...and we'd put metal roofs on ours, not shingles.
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03/02/07, 06:56 AM
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The one that they appraished was 12/12.
If you will go to forestryforum.com and look in just_sawing photo gallery I have pictures there.
I build kits that have everything you need but the nails and construction adhesive. I cut the roof angles but do noot trim the rest. I give instructions and answer questions. To build them you need a hammer, drill, saw and level.
I will furnish a kit for any size as needed.
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03/02/07, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by just_sawing
The one that they appraished was 12/12.
If you will go to forestryforum.com and look in just_sawing photo gallery I have pictures there.
I build kits that have everything you need but the nails and construction adhesive. I cut the roof angles but do noot trim the rest. I give instructions and answer questions. To build them you need a hammer, drill, saw and level.
I will furnish a kit for any size as needed.
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I'd like to see the kit, but didn't find it on the site listed....maybe you can post a direct link?
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03/02/07, 11:22 PM
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I'd like to see the kit, but didn't find it on the site listed....maybe you can post a direct link?
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Ditto here, could not find just_sawing on the link.
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03/03/07, 08:27 AM
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There are over 1,000 galleries. Don't think I'm taking the time to search!!!
By the way, I had one of thos unavoidable former-English-teacher attacks while reading the first post on this thread. If this irritates you, look away now.
Please note spelling:
1. appraised
2. gloat
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03/03/07, 09:29 AM
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I had one of those Mini Yard Barns delivered to my place a few years ago for 1K... I split into and made 2 separate miniature horse stalls inside, A friend just last summer had a larger mini barn built on his place 14 X 16 for $2600. And has made a nice work shop in it and stores his riding lawn-mowers inside.
WOW if somebody is selling a mini barns 12 X 12 for much over 2K is ripping people off!
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03/04/07, 05:24 AM
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I will post pictures in photobucket when I get too work Monday. Out in the country with a slow dial up it is a chore otherwise.
To the preivious poster your correct. You can purchase a mini here for 2400. You get what you pay for. For 1500 for the kit I raised the roof from their 6'2" to 6'11". I increase the loft from 3' to 5'. I changed the walls from 2X4 pine to 2X6 poplar. I changed the out side from 7/16 T11 arsnic ply to 1" poplar with 1" batten on the out side. I changed the 2 4/4s out of treated
pine not meant for ground contact (Read the fine print) to three 4/6 red cedar. Theirs they do bring it mine you cut nail and glue.
I feel that 1500 is not only fair but cheap. The two contractors I have never met but their business is building and I wasn't even there when they apprasied it.
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03/04/07, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by just_sawing
I will post pictures in photobucket when I get too work Monday. Out in the country with a slow dial up it is a chore otherwise.
To the preivious poster your correct. You can purchase a mini here for 2400. You get what you pay for. For 1500 for the kit I raised the roof from their 6'2" to 6'11". I increase the loft from 3' to 5'. I changed the walls from 2X4 pine to 2X6 poplar. I changed the out side from 7/16 T11 arsnic ply to 1" poplar with 1" batten on the out side. I changed the 2 4/4s out of treated
pine not meant for ground contact (Read the fine print) to three 4/6 red cedar. Theirs they do bring it mine you cut nail and glue.
I feel that 1500 is not only fair but cheap. The two contractors I have never met but their business is building and I wasn't even there when they apprasied it.
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I didn't look at your barn pics but I've read the post. you must be working for free or next to free. If it takes you 3 days and you include all materials I don't see how you will survive unless this is a hobby.
Where are you getting the materials?
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I didn't look at your barn pics but I've read the post. you must be working for free or next to free. If it takes you 3 days and you include all materials I don't see how you will survive unless this is a hobby.
Where are you getting the materials?
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One thing that may help, he has a sawmill....
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Just_sawing,
Have you ever put together a package for a building that is large like a 30 X 40?
Thanks.
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03/04/07, 08:05 AM
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One thing that may help, he has a sawmill....
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They don't give them away, they burn fuel and wear out blades. It also takes trees to saw and even if they come from your property they are a material and when they're gone they're gone.
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03/04/07, 10:16 AM
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They don't give them away, they burn fuel and wear out blades. It also takes trees to saw and even if they come from your property they are a material and when they're gone they're gone.
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I understand what you are saying and agree.
It's a matter of scale, no? Cut enough and the per unit cost goes down.
There's other ways of making a mill pay too. My neighbor has a good mill and custom cuts, buys logs for 25 cents per bd. foot and resells etc...
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