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Farmer, 25 cows, dog --all dead
Cold weather up here in Wisconsin!
And that diesel fuel likes to gel up.
Some farmers park their tractors inside the barn so the heat that comes off the animals will keep the tractor warm enough to get started in the morning for cleaning barns.
This guy started the tractor up but left it running inside a tad too long.
Carbon Monoxide killed him, his dog and all of his cows!
Tank on the tractor was EMPTY before anyone found him.
http://www.weau.com/news/headlines/5605551.html
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02/07/07, 05:01 AM
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Just to clarify, diesel fuel doesn't put out CO, but gasoline does. This farmer was using a gasoline powered tractor. A diesel tractor would not have had the same effect.
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02/07/07, 05:25 AM
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Reminds me of a favorite bumper sticker: "Darwin was right."
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02/07/07, 05:48 AM
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Sometimes all it takes is one little thing to change things from business as usual to disaster.
Neighbor behind me had been stripping the wooden floors in her apartment building using gasoline....worked well, she had been working on those floors for several months. We had a warm winter that year, maybe a little nippy at times, but warm. Then we had one of those nippy days and she closed one window too many......big WHOMP! and flames 30-50 feet in the air. Her renters all made it out ok...she didn't.
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02/07/07, 06:26 AM
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Two girls, 10 and 11 years old, are dead in a house fire. The mom was working and her live in boyfriend left them and went to a bowling alley. It was wood heat...Soooo sad, no one there to make them safe....
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02/07/07, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ZealYouthGuy
Just to clarify, diesel fuel doesn't put out CO, but gasoline does. This farmer was using a gasoline powered tractor. A diesel tractor would not have had the same effect.
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Both gas and diesel are going to consume oxygen. I would submit that lack of oxygen will kill you as surely as excess of CO.
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02/07/07, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ZealYouthGuy
Just to clarify, diesel fuel doesn't put out CO, but gasoline does. This farmer was using a gasoline powered tractor. A diesel tractor would not have had the same effect.
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Not true, although diesel engines produce much less carbon monoxide than gas engines, they still produce some, and can produce dangerous levels. ANY combustion process can produce carbon monoxide under the right conditions.
http://www.coheadquarters.com/coDiesel01.htm
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02/07/07, 07:37 AM
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The carbon monoxide from gasoline is a relatively unnoticeable gas. You just lose consciousness apparently and then die. The fumes from burning diesel would likely have become apparent in time to ventilate.
Folks have died from using BBQ grills for heat within a confined area.
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02/07/07, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by suzfromWi
Two girls, 10 and 11 years old, are dead in a house fire. The mom was working and her live in boyfriend left them and went to a bowling alley. It was wood heat...Soooo sad, no one there to make them safe....
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Oh suz, isn't that awful. Well, I hope the boyfriend enjoyed his bowling.
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02/07/07, 09:37 AM
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The death of those 2 girls is so sad.
I was babysitting for other people by the time I was 11. I guess I would have let them stay home alone, too.
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02/07/07, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tallpines
Cold weather up here in Wisconsin!
And that diesel fuel likes to gel up.
Some farmers park their tractors inside the barn so the heat that comes off the animals will keep the tractor warm enough to get started in the morning for cleaning barns.
This guy started the tractor up but left it running inside a tad too long.
Carbon Monoxide killed him, his dog and all of his cows!
http://www.weau.com/news/headlines/5605551.html |
We had 14 carbon monoxide deaths here in WA during the cold snap a couple months ago. People running generators in their garages, homes, or using barbecue briquet's inside homes etc. Most of them immigrants who come from countries with less well sealed "houses".
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02/07/07, 10:45 AM
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Could that farmer's barn have really been so well sealed?
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02/07/07, 11:58 AM
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Both gas and diesel are going to consume oxygen. I would submit that lack of oxygen will kill you as surely as excess of CO.
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Actually it isn't lack of oxygen in the air that makes carbon monoxide dangerous. The co combines with your blood cells and can't be dislodged by oxygen. So even if you pull someone out of that situation into fresh air they still have a reduced capacity in their blood stream until those cells are replaced by others.
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Things do happen quickly on a farm. Last year we had a neighbor who was in his barn cutting boards on a home saw mill. One of the boards somehow jumped back and hit him in the head, killing him instantly. His handicapped wife had to call his cousin to come check on him and he found him dead. Sad.
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02/07/07, 12:25 PM
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Reminds me of a favorite bumper sticker: "Darwin was right."
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Harshin'! He was in a frigid cold region and had to run the tractor to get it started. I think a farmer deserves all of our respect.
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02/07/07, 12:33 PM
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Could that farmer's barn have really been so well sealed?
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In northern WI this time of year, you bet!
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02/07/07, 12:57 PM
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Oh My,
Dunn county isn't really "northern WI", but close enough.
This happened about 30 miles north of where I use to live.
Very sad news.
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02/07/07, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Macybaby
Oh My,
Dunn county isn't really "northern WI", but close enough.
This happened about 30 miles north of where I use to live.
Very sad news.
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 Lots of people think anything North of Madison is Northern Wisconsin.
But, you are right--------when it comes to measuring actual miles from the Northerm most tip to the most southern, Dunn County is more like Central Wisconsin.
But then "Central Wis" makes one think more of Stevens Point, 'Rapids area.
Anyway---It's COLD.
When we were on the farm my DH always parked the tractor inside the barn in sub-zero weather. But, once it was up and running, it was backed out to the manure unloader.
Man, those memories make me glad we aren't there now.
DH lived there for 58 years and struggled with lots of silo unloaders and manure spreaders and manure unloaders that would freeze up in this kind of weather.
It wasn't fun.
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02/07/07, 06:07 PM
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This is so tragic. Remembering the family in prayer.
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02/07/07, 07:39 PM
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What GrannyG said.
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