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Lookit what I found this morning
I went out to leave some cat food out in the loafing shed because there is a cat that lives under all the barn wood stacked in there. I've seen some dead birds in there from time to time, but this takes the cake.
It didn't look to have any obvious trauma. Looked like he just lay down, curled up and went to sleep. Poor thing. Frozen solid. Now what do I do with it? Do I just chuck it in a compost heap? Call the DNR and have them come get it?
The kids had fun with it... (they have a sick sense of humour...can't tell ya where they get THAT from  )
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02/03/07, 01:31 PM
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possibility of rabies? maybe don't hug it?
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02/03/07, 01:46 PM
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LMAO@your kids! I LOVE IT!! For some reason it gave me the giggles!
how cold was it last night? Is the racoon sickly looking?
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02/03/07, 01:54 PM
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MELOC I was trying to discourage them from hugging it, too. Is it possible to get rabies just from touching a rabid critter? 
Tonya Hubby and I get the giggles looking at the pic of the kids with the coon, too. It was down to -6*F, but windchills could have been down in the -20* to -30* range. It doesn't look like it was sick, but it wasn't as fat as some coons I've seen. I also don't know exactly how long it was there. I haven't gone to the loafing shed in days and just happened to do it today because I was worried about the cat that we've seen go in there from time to time and I thought I'd leave some food out for him.
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02/03/07, 02:00 PM
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Ohhh, bad idea to handle a critter that died under these circumstances. Yes, you can get rabies from handling a dead critter. Distemper will also kill them but I don't think humans can catch it.
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02/03/07, 02:03 PM
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I would have worn gloves and put it in a bag and directly into the garbage because it COULD very well have rabies! Esp. if it doesn't look sick otherwise. You might want to take it to the vet and have them check it since your kids were handling it. Better safe than sorry! There is only a 5 day window between being exposed and having to start the shots! 
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02/03/07, 02:18 PM
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As far as I know you cannot get rabies just from handling a critter like that. usealy from bite or scrach. I hope your kids did not kiss it or anything. rabies is not airborn.
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02/03/07, 02:18 PM
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Well,I wouldn't have handled it. You can get rabies without receiving a bite,but it's more rare. I couldn't say much more than that about it,because I'm not sure of specifics.
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02/03/07, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shawnfromMaine
As far as I know you cannot get rabies just from handling a critter like that. usealy from bite or scrach. I hope your kids did not kiss it or anything. rabies is not airborn.
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No, but it is saliva born and can survive in the saliva for some time after death. Also a critter with rabies slobbers a lot, so in all liklyhood by handling the animal one would get some of this saliva on ones self.
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02/03/07, 02:22 PM
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I would have it sent off to make sure it did not have rabies!!! Oh my--I think I would be worried..
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02/03/07, 02:23 PM
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As far as I know you cannot get rabies just from handling a critter like that. usealy from bite or scrach. I hope your kids did not kiss it or anything. rabies is not airborn.
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Shawn,I was thinking that their saliva could be infectious,like....if you came in contact with their saliva(without a bite)and then got it into your own mouth or on a cut. I'm not real sure,though.
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02/03/07, 02:24 PM
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Ok I was rong tinknal said the same thing as the person I just called said sorry did not think of that!!!!!!!
The person who told me this is a GameWarden
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Ok I was rong tinknal said the same thing as the person I just called said sorry did not think of that!!!!!!!
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Shawn, no bodys ganging up on you, they prolly opened the thread before I posted my response so they did not see it. 
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02/03/07, 02:29 PM
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No I did not feel ganged up on as soon as I posted it I called my friend to make sure thats all
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02/03/07, 02:29 PM
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Shawn, no bodys ganging up on you, they prolly opened the thread before I posted my response so they did not see it. |
Yep,that's right. I didn't see your response until after I posted mine. No ganging up on,Shawn
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02/03/07, 02:34 PM
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Take the body to a vet, and theres a strong possibility your kids will have to go through prophylactic rabies treatment.
If you were trying to discourage them from hugging it, why let them touch it to begin with AND Take a picture of it?
This isnt a joking matter.
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I appreciate your concern, everyone, and did some research on my own. This is what I found from the CDC about rabies.
"2. Q: Can I get rabies in any way other than an animal bite?
A: Non-bite exposures to rabies are very rare. Scratches, abrasions, open wounds, or mucous membranes contaminated with saliva or other potentially infectious material (such as brain tissue) from a rabid animal constitute non-bite exposures. Occasionally reports of non-bite exposure are such that postexposure prophylaxis is given.
Inhalation of aerosolized rabies virus is also a potential non-bite route of exposure, but other than laboratory workers, most people are unlikely to encounter an aerosol of rabies virus.
Other contact, such as petting a rabid animal or contact with the blood, urine or feces (e.g., guano) of a rabid animal, does not constitute an exposure and is not an indication for prophylaxis."
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02/03/07, 03:37 PM
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I appreciate your concern, everyone, and did some research on my own. This is what I found from the CDC about rabies.
"2. Q: Can I get rabies in any way other than an animal bite?
A: Non-bite exposures to rabies are very rare. Scratches, abrasions, open wounds, or mucous membranes contaminated with saliva or other potentially infectious material (such as brain tissue) from a rabid animal constitute non-bite exposures. Occasionally reports of non-bite exposure are such that postexposure prophylaxis is given.
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This is the exposue your kids have had.
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02/03/07, 03:48 PM
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I agree! this is exposure.! as soon as i saw the picture I was afraid for the kids but I waited for others more experienced. this animal had no obvious trauma. maybe everything is fine. but I would get them to a doctor.! just my opinion.
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02/03/07, 03:52 PM
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Any body fluids can spread rabies, saliva, what if he had just licked a area the kids touched? please, dont let them do this again. i'm suspicious of anything that dies under mysterious circumstances-
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