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01/08/07, 04:23 PM
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Duck breeds that can't fly?
Are there any duck breeds that can't fly(Indian Runners?)? I friend of mine lives on the river. Last year he brought me some duck eggs and I incubated them for him. He so enjoyed those ducks. However they weren't tame enough for him to be able to catch them and clip their wings. Needless to say they ended up on some hunters table. He'd love some more as pets and to simply enjoy watching. He doesn't own his property and isn't allowed to cage them so a breed that couldn't fly and be hunted would be great. Your help will be greatly appreciated.
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01/08/07, 04:27 PM
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White Pekin Ducks. Never seen them fly, although they can flap while they run which gives them some ground speed.
They love water too. I had 5 last year and they survived 2 fox attacks on the creek. Strong birds...
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01/08/07, 04:36 PM
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In that case our hunters aren't playing by the rules as two of the ducks he lost this fall were Pekins. Maybe nothing stands a chance! I know you can't hunt Harlequiuns in this area but as one hunter told me ...me wouldn't know one if he saw one!
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01/08/07, 05:24 PM
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We have Cayuga ducks and they are big and beautiful and the do not fly.
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01/08/07, 05:33 PM
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I had Khaki Campbells. They also don't fly, and lay lots of eggs.
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01/08/07, 05:39 PM
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We had ducks with white pom-poms on their heads and they couldn't fly. Some kind of crested duck I think, I was young. I think some domestic breeds can't fly because they are too heavy for their wings.
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Yep, they were crested ducks, domesticated and couldn't fly.
http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/Ducks/BRKDucks.html
http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/D...stedDucks.html
They were a riot. We had a broody hen hatch them and we put an old rowboat full of water in the yard. Well, ducks being ducks, they took off to swim and that mother hen about died of panic thinking they were gonna drown. She never did realize they were ducks nor did the ducks realize they were ducks...all the other hen house residents knew something was wrong...poor rooster.
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01/08/07, 06:01 PM
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All ducks have the ability to fly, but usually domestic breeds do not fly because they don't have to - they don't aquire the muscle development as very young ducks. A duck that can't fly by the time it's 12 weeks old becomes coyote dinner.Then they get a little "fat" on corn and can't fly. None of my ducks can fly away, they can all fly about 2 or 3' off the ground quite a distance, probably 25 or 30 yards.
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01/08/07, 06:04 PM
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Duck breeds that don't fly.
Thanks for all your ideas. I've had ducks and none of them ever flew but they didn't need to. These guys will live on a river and if they can will probably fly at some time. I just don't want my friend to lose more buddies. He enjoyed watching them so. I used a hen to hatch them and some of the kids at the campground he lives in really thought the chicken had hatched ducks. Was not pleasant when I saw them in the back of hunters PU.
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01/08/07, 07:27 PM
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Hi,
We have two Rouen ducks and one Khacki Campbell. If you don't know what Rouens are-they look like mallards except they are approx. 10 lbs.
We got them as ducklings and kept them in the yard with a plastic swimming pool until they were fully grown and several months old.
About that time, it was high summer, and the creek adjacent to our property was pretty low, with sand bars ect. and it wasn't flowing as swiftly.
One day by mistake, our ducks pool went empty and they found the creek!
I was so worried they were gone forever! But they have grown accustomed to the currents, they can even manage when the water is extremely high. The ducks spend a lot of time in the creek, never very far away almost always in view. They roost along the creek in our yard, and come up to the house twice a day to eat. Otherwise they graze in the yard, and dive for crayfish and seaweed in the creek.
They are fat, sassy and we positively adore them!
They do fly-short distances to get into the water ect. I am glad they can fly as they don't waddle very fast!
While we have lost chickens to predators, (*NOCK ON WOOD***) all three ducks seem to manage-just fine. They decided they didn't like the wooden 'duck house' we constructed for them (and locked them inside at night when they were little) The only time they sleep inside is when it is positively cold out-they stand in front of where we keep the bantams quacking asking to be let in so they can sleep in front of the heat lamp we keep in there.
One thing they DON'T like....snow. I had to dig a path up to the house because they wouldn't get out of the icy creek and brave that horrible snow!
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01/08/07, 07:29 PM
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A hunter shot pekins?That would commonly be called a moron in my neck of the woods pretty obvious they were domestic. Id have called the sheriff and game warden.
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01/08/07, 07:58 PM
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I have pekings and muscoveys. I have seen them flap about, but do think they are a bit on the heavy side to fly.
they are basically free range, and always stay close to home.
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01/08/07, 11:13 PM
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I use to have muscoveys the young ones would fly around the barnyard but never flew away, as they got older they stayed grounded, as for catching them i would grain them from a pail and they got so use to it that they would follow me around any time i had a pail in my hand.
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01/09/07, 05:46 AM
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Fantasymaker thanks for that info. No one in my family hunts so I didn't know that the sheriff could have been called. Don't find muscovy's very friendly and after having one myself that would attack I don't think they would be the best choice around the campground kids. In order to get away with keeping them my friend will have to be sure they won't cause any trouble! Thanks again everyone.
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01/09/07, 05:56 AM
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Don't find muscovy's very friendly and after having one myself that would attack I don't think they would be the best choice around the campground kids
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Really? Mine were so tame, I sometimes had to practically wade through them, they would follow me around and get underfoot. But I raised them from ducklings, so they were definitely people ducks. I suppose ducks are like chickens, though, sometimes you get a bad one, and that only determines who goes in the freezer first!
Male muscovies don't fly well as they get too heavy. My females I just clipped; being tree ducks, like they liked to perch on high things, like the barn roof. Once they were clipped, they wouldn't even go as far as getting on my water troughs.
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A hunter shot pekins?That would commonly be called a moron in my neck of the woods pretty obvious they were domestic. Id have called the sheriff and game warden.
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My thoughts exactly-- hunting wild waterfowl does not include Pekins or any other domestic duck. Next time call the sheriff or game officer.
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01/09/07, 07:41 AM
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Ducks that can't fly can still walk. Since he lives on the river and can't pen the ducks it seems unlikely that he can keep them going to the water.
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01/09/07, 08:22 AM
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You say they "ended up on some hunters table". Do you know this is a fact? Domestic ducks really don't stand a chance swimming around in a river. There are about a dozen type of critters that will readly make a meal out of a domestic duck.
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01/09/07, 01:54 PM
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Interesting
A game warden is not going to care if some pekins were shot. They would be more concerned about you releasing domestic birds and then they end up crossing with mallards. In some areas of the U.S mallards have become so tainted with domestic blood that they are not showing true mallard type/color any more and alot have lost the ability to migrate. Besides YOU could end up getting fined from calling a game warden and telling them you released domestic ducks on a river. If I was those hunters and I saw two big white ducks floating in a river out in the woods I would probably shoot them too because they do not belong their. They weren't idiots, they were smart enough to realize domestic ducks do not belong mixing with wildfowl. This kinda cracks me up after seeing all the people on here advocating the 3 S's and then somebodies ducks are floating on a river, not even on their land, supposedly get shot and NOW the sherif and game warden should be called.
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01/09/07, 02:12 PM
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We are talking pekins......and I take it you dont understand the concept of free range? As far as I can tell the landowner was perfectly happy with the situation.
better check your laws agin , hunting is only allowed for animals defined as"game" or varmits and pests. Domestick fowl are never leagal to hunt.........Unless they are harming your animals
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Besides dont they have to be in the air to be a leagal shot?
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01/09/07, 05:21 PM
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FM, I think you are missing something. The ducks were "free ranging" on public land! I don't know where you live, but where I live you are expected to keep your livestock on your own property.
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