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Steel buildings?
Does any one here own a steel building? What do you think of them? Can any body give me an estamated cost of them? I was thinking about using one for a barn. What do you think?
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01/05/07, 04:02 PM
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We're looking at them right now; it really depends on how big you want.
What my husband has it narrowed down to is a 30 x 50 x 10 with two overhead doors and one walk-through door; two or three windows and wainscoting, gutters and contrasting trim color. Since it's going right up front next to the house, I agree - it better look pretty good.
Anyway, we're seeing that for all the drawings (we're in city limits, have to have a permit), dirt work, concrete, building and installation it's going to run us right at $25,000.
Here's a link to a couple of the places we've talked to that seem to be the most knowledgeable and have pretty good prices;they may not be in your area, but perhaps you could get a little information from them and then talk to a couple of suppliers in your area. http://www.bbmofokc.com/, or http://www.indacometals.com/
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01/05/07, 04:14 PM
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I had put in a Morton 30x60x12' with a double sliding side door, two overhead garage doors and a walk-in door and a window a few years ago. I am very satisfied with it and everybody likes it a lot.Very good colors, wainscote, trim, gutters, 60 lb. snow load etc. they had it done in six days....complete!!! Very professionally done!
$29,000. there are some cheaper in price, but basically you get what you pay for. They have many different styles and they will custom build anything you want.
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01/05/07, 04:19 PM
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Huh, we talked to the Morton down here and didn't get a good "vibe" from them. I know they are supposed to be a really good company, but the salesman we had just didn't set right.
I so agree that you get what you pay for though. Don't forget to ask about what gauge that metal is!! Oh, and since we're in city limits we have to have not only signed engineered drawings of the building, but a plot plan (we can do) and a footing design (also has to be signed off on by an engineer). Some companies apparently offer both the steel drawings and footing design, and some give only the steel drawings and it's up to you to get an engineer to do the footing design - no telling how much that could cost!
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01/05/07, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Morning Owl
Does any one here own a steel building? What do you think of them? Can any body give me an estamated cost of them? I was thinking about using one for a barn. What do you think?
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I got a quote on a 20 x 40 with one walk through door on one end and just a couple of 5 foot wide openings on one side. Came to about $6000. As was already stated, they will build anything you want as long as youre willing to pay for it.
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Lots of them on ebay,
I googled "steel building" and found a couple of cost estimaters.
There are some in the area over 50 years old
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01/05/07, 05:15 PM
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Thanks guys I will check out the links. A 20 X 40 for $6000 isn't bad.
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01/05/07, 05:54 PM
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Ask each supplier what the shipping weight of their building (to your consistent design) will be. You will be amazed at the weight variations. The weight will represent what you are getting for your money! More weight more substance.
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01/05/07, 06:00 PM
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Don't forget the slab. That's almost as expensive as the building.
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01/05/07, 08:02 PM
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Our building was from 'Freedom Steel'.
40 X 60 14 foot tall, with one set of double doors. It cost us $16k.
I set it up myself over the summer.
I also found a contractor here who specialises in steel buildings, and he quoted me a price of $10k to set it up, he said that it would take his five guys four days.
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01/05/07, 08:33 PM
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Your local Amish folks can probably build you a barn for less than a steel building.
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01/06/07, 12:10 AM
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What do you mean?
Wood frame or pole building, with steel siding.
Steel frame, with steel siding.
Metal arch type building, looks like a quanset, the siding is deeply ribbed & there is no other frame.
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01/06/07, 12:30 AM
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I just got bids wednesday. 30x60, garage door and entry on side, slider on end, $14,7XX. Same thing at 80' long $18,000. Thats for pole type, 10' high, installed.
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01/06/07, 10:08 AM
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There is a lot to be said for using wood and concrete for a barn. Remeber livestock gives off a lot of moisture and some of it is very acidic.
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01/06/07, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rambler
What do you mean?
Wood frame or pole building, with steel siding.
Steel frame, with steel siding.
Metal arch type building, looks like a quanset, the siding is deeply ribbed & there is no other frame.
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Good points, each manufacturer makes buildings that look entirely different from one another.
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01/06/07, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Christine in OK
Huh, we talked to the Morton down here and didn't get a good "vibe" from them. I know they are supposed to be a really good company, but the salesman we had just didn't set right.
I so agree that you get what you pay for though. Don't forget to ask about what gauge that metal is!! Oh, and since we're in city limits we have to have not only signed engineered drawings of the building, but a plot plan (we can do) and a footing design (also has to be signed off on by an engineer). Some companies apparently offer both the steel drawings and footing design, and some give only the steel drawings and it's up to you to get an engineer to do the footing design - no telling how much that could cost!
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Sorry to hear you got a "bad vibe" from them. My Morton building price included all the stamped engineered plans for the building dept. and County in which I live. All I was responsible for was the graded level, graveled pad for the building. But, they will do that too for you. Basically it is a pole barn constuction with concrete 24"x48" deep footers for uprights and engineered trusses. You can pour the concrete pad inside later if you wish. I just put gravel in mine for the floor for now. All I know is that it looks great!!! If you ever sale the property, this building will bring top dollar for the property.
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01/06/07, 04:29 PM
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I got four copies of the plans, all signed by an engineer, and exceeding the building codes for this county.
I set it onto a foundation with gravel inside. no slab.
I think the 'snow load' was 80 pounds per sq ft, like 50% above the state's building code for this county.
And the wind shear numbers were equally above the building codes.
One of the building code numbers was for hurricane winds causing an upward pull on each side of the building, which required that the foundation have extra rebar and extra long anchor bolts. But really this is not a hurricane area. I think that the engineer was erroring on the extreme safe side.
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01/06/07, 06:11 PM
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for a barn out of site from the road, I have thought about having a large steel carport and then drilling bolt holes in the frame and bolting my own steel sides to it...
That would be about $700 plus the cost of the bolts, drill and steel.
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01/06/07, 06:32 PM
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why not just build it your self? I have friends in thecarport trade and they make a ton off of building them
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01/07/07, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by swollen tongue
Sorry to hear you got a "bad vibe" from them. My Morton building price included all the stamped engineered plans for the building dept. and County in which I live. All I was responsible for was the graded level, graveled pad for the building. But, they will do that too for you. Basically it is a pole barn constuction with concrete 24"x48" deep footers for uprights and engineered trusses. You can pour the concrete pad inside later if you wish. I just put gravel in mine for the floor for now. All I know is that it looks great!!! If you ever sale the property, this building will bring top dollar for the property.
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Sounds like a good deal you got there. We want to go ahead and have the concrete pad done first, since this is going to be for Lance's lawn equipment and such, which he has quite a bit of money tied up in. We have a barn now that was here when we bought the place, but it's a dirt floor, bad walls, leaky roof. We've re-sided part of it with leftover privacy fence pickets given to us by one of the other firefighters who builds fences on his day off. But that dirt floor just drives Lance nuts, it's just pure dust, and he just knows it's getting up in his engine and is going to wear it out. Given the price of this dumb mower, it better last until I'm 80, so...
I did just check with the city Friday and found out that they have re-done the set back in our zoning category (GA, general agricultural), and we need to get on this and get our permit soon, or else we'll be up that proverbial creek. Right now our set back is 5', but by the end of February it will be 25' unless we are grandfathered in, which is not a guarantee. Once I get the permit though, we have plenty of time to get the building actually finished, as long as we get it started before too long.
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