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Old 10/16/06, 09:13 PM
 
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Can't turn the heat up!

Our furnace has decided to retire. Now, we've called two local repair guys with good reputations, but they haven't even taken the time to call back to set up an appointment even though I've called each one 2-3 times over the last 4 weeks. Seems they are still busy installing new furnaces to all the homes affected by the flood in June. So, DH has tried to diagnose/repair the thing himself and he's concluded that it's probably a cracked combustion chamber.
Now, can anyone give me the bad news? My google search didn't tell me what I need to know... what's the cost of a new oil forced hot air furnace for a 1000 sq ft two story house?
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Old 10/16/06, 09:16 PM
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DH has tried to diagnose/repair the thing himself and he's concluded that it's probably a cracked combustion chamber.
I'd be sure before I started spending money. It might be just a bad thermacoupler. If the combustion chamber is cracked, it might still work. Mine worked for several years with a cracked chamber. The repairman said it was ok until the cracks got so big that it would be dangerous.
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Old 10/16/06, 09:37 PM
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Please tell us that you have a functioning carbon monoxide alarm.
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Old 10/16/06, 09:49 PM
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Cabin a cracked combustion chamber is not a cracked heat exchanger. A cracked heat exchanger is an immediate hazard and must be replaced. Combustion chambers are contained within the heat exchanger, and a very minor crack might not be serious.
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Old 10/16/06, 11:05 PM
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My furnace died on Saturday night. I'm frickin' freezin'! I paid a guy $90 bucks on Sunday to tell me my furnace couldn't be fixed. It's a 40yo unit. I was going to replace it anyway but we just bought this house and I was hoping to get one more year out of it. I guess not. Anyway... A "comfort specialist" (salesman) comes out to my house today and tells me it's going to be $4300 for a new furnace.

HA! Like fun it is.

We bought a furnace from a wholesaler online this afternoon. Top of the line: 95% efficiency, 2 stage Goodman furnace for $1370 including shipping. My FIL is a general contractor; he knows how to install a furnace properly.

My house is 2900 sq. ft. You wouldn't need the unit I bought. The "comfort specialist" told me that he had just come from a 900 sq. ft. house and quoted them $2500. This was all for gas furnaces. I don't know how oil furnace prices compare. I just wanted you to know that I feel your pain.

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I feel for you. Ours is a combo AC/furnace that runs on propane. I turned it on last week when the temperatures dipped into the low 30s only to discover that it isn't working. The AC works fine, but no heat. Called repairman and were told it would be at least two weeks . . .grrr . . .

So four quilts on the bed and lots of snuggling got us through and now temperatures are back up for a while. I even resorted to using the electric heater we got for Christmas last year to heat up the bathroom enough to take a comfortable bath. I think ours ran about $5000 including duct work and installation but that was seven years ago.

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Old 10/17/06, 07:24 AM
 
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Please tell us that you have a functioning carbon monoxide alarm.

Thanks for the concern! Although do be honest, we do not have one. Right now, the furnace is shut off completely. So, no heat but also no carbon monoxide. Maybe I'll suggest to my parents to consider that as a Christmas gift.
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Old 10/17/06, 07:31 AM
 
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We bought a furnace from a wholesaler online this afternoon. Top of the line: 95% efficiency, 2 stage Goodman furnace for $1370 including shipping. My FIL is a general contractor; he knows how to install a furnace properly.

My house is 2900 sq. ft. You wouldn't need the unit I bought. The "comfort specialist" told me that he had just come from a 900 sq. ft. house and quoted them $2500. This was all for gas furnaces. I don't know how oil furnace prices compare. I just wanted you to know that I feel your pain.

RedTartan
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It's not fun trying to keep four kids warm. But I am glad that the temps are still getting up around high fifties at least.
I'd like to look online for a dealer, but haven't found any. Do you have a link to the website that you ordered from?
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Old 10/17/06, 09:17 AM
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It's not fun trying to keep four kids warm. But I am glad that the temps are still getting up around high fifties at least.
I'd like to look online for a dealer, but haven't found any. Do you have a link to the website that you ordered from?
www.furnacewhiz.com

He has TONS of high feedback on ebay and he's a liscenced dealer.

Again, this was for a gas furnace. I'm not sure he sells oil.

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Edited to add: His username on ebay is also furnacewhiz if you want to check his listings there.
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www.furnacewhiz.com

He has TONS of high feedback on ebay and he's a liscenced dealer.

Again, this was for a gas furnace. I'm not sure he sells oil.

RedTartan

Edited to add: His username on ebay is also furnacewhiz if you want to check his listings there.

Thanks!! I'll check it out.
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Old 10/18/06, 04:18 PM
 
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You all are so helpful, thanks!! Here's an update... I'll do my best to explain further, but I'm not the one who worked on it so I hope I tell it right!
The transformer is relatively new-less than a year old. The nozzle is new & correct. The pump is less than five years old. Full tank of oil - filled after the problem started.
What it's doing is this: It starts up, runs, and shuts off just fine. But, it smells like fuel (To DH, to me it smells like burning plastic) from the ductwork/registers, we haven't let it run long enough (more than a minute) to see if smoke also comes through the ducts.
DH called around yesterday. A new unit, comparable to ours is around $1300. Installed our estimates ran from $3200 to $3600. We questioned the difference and was told by one guy that the installed price includes replacement of flue, fuel line, and any ductwork needed to connect the new unit.
Now, my question is this... DH is a very skilled auto mechanic. Very handy guy who pays attention and is very meticulous. Is it illogical to think that this is a job he can handle on his own? (with informed direction of course) If yes, what should he watch out for?
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