Woodpecker (and other bird) Lovers

[tallpines]

Do you own a cell phone?

Do you own a television?

Do you listen to a radio?

Do you check your computor for weather reports?


If you answered YES to any one of these questions------then SHAME on you!

It is your use of any one of these modern conviences that contributes to the death of hundreds of birds EVERY DAY!

The towers that enable these "toys" to function, KILL birds when they fly into the support wires.

The more cell phones---the bigger the demand for additional towers.
The more towers----the more DEAD birds!

Next time you use that cell phone, or turn on the TV. or want to know if those tornado clouds are near your homestead-----think about the birds that must DIE to support your luxuries!

I provide food and habitat for more birds than some of you will see in a year, yet you condemn me for doing something that needed to be done.

What about you------how many birds die each year just so you can carry a cell phone?

If you truely love birds and feel you are justified in condemning me, then, toss out your cell phone, get rid of your TV and radios, take your chances on the weather.

Prove that you are willing to do more than just give others a bad time.
Prove that your ways are superior.

[RoseGarden]

I don't know you and haven't read your posts, so I don't know about others condemning you for whatever... it isn't my business. But I too provide habitat for wildlife, dozens of acres of very densely wooded land for birds among them. I feed a lot of bird seed, suet, etc. Go through a 50 lb. sack of black oil seed about every week. The best $7 I spend on a weely basis.

Will I get rid of my cell phone or television? No. If some tornado or hurricane is grinding the land around me to bits, far more animals of all kinds are going to die than my per capita contribution to the cell phone towers, etc. Don't believe me? Go out after a tornado or hurricane and take a GOOD look around in the downed brush and limbs, and see what you find. They're there. And I won't risk the safety of my family by taking a chance with severe weather. What folly.

Having said that, if the woodpeckers are in danger, is that why they pack my clothesline poles, television arial, and the toprail of my chain link fence full of dog kibble all the time?

[Paula]

Ha HA! Good one tallpines!
BTW, I would've sss too if nothing else worked. I wouldn't let something I worked hard for/on be destroyed by an animal.
Humans do dominate over animals. If we all were willing to go naked into the woods and live like the native americans did it could be a little different (I for one would love that BTW.) Even in that case humans/animals would never be on equal standing. Who would be willing to sacrifice a family member to a predator? That's what dominate means in this case - we eat them - or not - but we don't allow them to eat us.

[topside1]

Sorry to get involved but, as an avid hunter I spend numerous hours walking power-line trails, and microwave towers roadways and if the amount of dead birds was true I would be tripping over their carcasses while hiking. In fact, I'm quite sure I have never seen dead birds under power-lines or under other manmade structures in the wild. In the past I have heard that millions of birds die each year via by striking powers lines, I'm still not a believer. Not trying to enter this argument, just stating my first hand observations....Tennessee John

[Paula]

Originally Posted by topside1

Sorry to get involved but, as an avid hunter I spend numerous hours walking power-line trails, and microwave towers roadways and if the amount of dead birds was true I would be tripping over their carcasses while hiking. In fact, I'm quite sure I have never seen dead birds under power-lines or under other manmade structures in the wild. In the past I have heard that millions of birds die each year via by striking powers lines, I'm still not a believer. Not trying to enter this argument, just stating my first hand observations....Tennessee John

Well they wouldn't just be laying around - predators and scavengers would scarf them up almost as soon as they landed.

[topside1]

That's alot of predators and scavengers, I better walk softly and carry a bigger stick...

[Paula]

Ha Ha.
If animals get used to finding a free meal in a certain place, I can assure you they'll make that place a stop on their daily rounds.

[Lynne]

This is the thrid post that I've read by you about this whole thing... maybe now you understand the reason for the silence part.
Come on don't let these people get to you
Time to move on.

[MarleneS]

If the predators are carrying off the birds killed by power lines and cable supporting towers so quickly that people who are out under said power lines and cables have never noticed the dead birds ... how are they being counted by the people who share their findings with people like tallpines?

Marlene

P.S. I do not have a cell phone, but I do have a television. I will give that up when tallpines gives up his/her computer

[topside1]

I wish the predators and scavengers would clean the roadways as quick as the power lines. That's all I have to say, better things to do...over and out!!

[Ardie/WI]

Here...(Ardie hands TP a white chip and Macadamia nut cookie) !

[Paula]

Originally Posted by topside1

I wish the predators and scavengers would clean the roadways as quick as the power lines. That's all I have to say, better things to do...over and out!!

Well...the roadways are scary and dangerous and the power lines aren't.

[Thumbbuddy]

Hey, Tallpines, Time to move on, go for a ride and hope you do not hit a bird or animal. By the way are you a grass eater, no meat, fish, or chicken? Glad they cut down the trees to build a home for you so the birds would not fly into it. YES time to move on.

[Ed Norman]

Originally Posted by MarleneS

If the predators are carrying off the birds killed by power lines and cable supporting towers so quickly that people who are out under said power lines and cables have never noticed the dead birds ... how are they being counted by the people who share their findings with people like tallpines?

Marlene

P.S. I do not have a cell phone, but I do have a television. I will give that up when tallpines gives up his/her computer

Are you serious? They count the predators and multiply by ten.

I have seen two pheasant fly into power lines when they flushed while we were hunting. One broke it's neck, the other turned a somersault and kept going. But those birds had more on their minds than power lines at the time.

[CountryMamaof5]

I once had an uncle who was fishing off a break wall and a seagull swooped down for his lure that was along the top of the water. I forget what kind of lure it was but anyways it was close to the surface. The seagull got it good and then started flying and flapping and was just absolutely hysterical. My uncle is standing there with this obvious seagull in distress and my uncle was in obvious embarassment. I would have paid to watch it..

So add that to the list.. you cannot fish either :P Might get a seagull! :P

[jross]

"Before ye take a splinter from thy neighbor's eye remove the plank from thine own eye".

[ginsengsally]

You forgot one tallpines:

Do you own a cat who you let outside?

[HilltopDaisy]

This is getting old.

[tallpines]

Originally Posted by Ardie/WI

Here...(Ardie hands TP a white chip and Macadamia nut cookie) !

Oh, Ardie!
Those are my FAVORITE!

Thank You!

[Arkie1]

You do realize that justifying ones actions by listing other peoples assorted wrongs in an obvious attempt to negate the seriousness of one's own choices; is usually done by someone who feels guilty about their actions.
There really is no need to keep this argument alive if you feel totally justified and are confident that you tried everything possible to deter the little fella & you were left with no choice but to kill a Federally protected bird.

Originally Posted by tallpines

Do you own a cell phone?

Do you own a television?

Do you listen to a radio?

Do you check your computor for weather reports?


If you answered YES to any one of these questions------then SHAME on you!

It is your use of any one of these modern conviences that contributes to the death of hundreds of birds EVERY DAY!

The towers that enable these "toys" to function, KILL birds when they fly into the support wires.

The more cell phones---the bigger the demand for additional towers.
The more towers----the more DEAD birds!

Next time you use that cell phone, or turn on the TV. or want to know if those tornado clouds are near your homestead-----think about the birds that must DIE to support your luxuries!

I provide food and habitat for more birds than some of you will see in a year, yet you condemn me for doing something that needed to be done.

What about you------how many birds die each year just so you can carry a cell phone?

If you truely love birds and feel you are justified in condemning me, then, toss out your cell phone, get rid of your TV and radios, take your chances on the weather.

Prove that you are willing to do more than just give others a bad time.
Prove that your ways are superior.