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I hear wolves!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh my gosh my heart is racing. My poor lone doggie there is no way she could take them if she felt like it. I can hear them howl!!!!!!!!! They can have my little critters if they leave my sammy doggie alone. Shes my lgd. But shes just one. We have protected gray wolves here in my neck of the woods. and no its not the coyotes. They sound way difrent. Im freeking!!!!!!!
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08/19/06, 11:18 PM
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Better load up the guns and keep them ready then.
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08/19/06, 11:21 PM
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I cant shoot them ill go to jail. they are raidoed here and very much protected. im scared!!!!!!! im alone i suck at shooting when Im scared!!!!!!!!
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08/19/06, 11:28 PM
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm, bring the dog in?????????/
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08/19/06, 11:30 PM
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Try shooting to Scare them,
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08/19/06, 11:31 PM
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm, bring the dog in?????????/
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Hush, rational sugesstions have no place in the middle of a panic attack!
Honestly, in most places, even protected species can be disposed of if they are an immediate threat to livestock or property.
Break out the shot gun.
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08/19/06, 11:46 PM
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we get letters all the time about what the wolves are doing and how big the pack is. And if they kill an animal who to contact. The state will reimburse me. I can hear sam at the back pasture. shes about 4 acres away and she wont come back shes protecting the flock. They have stopped for now. its been a few min sence I have heared them, oops here they go again. Dang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the gun is loaded and ready to go.
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08/20/06, 12:02 AM
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We have wolves here. The only dog I know of having been killed was a coonhound killed while hunting. My guess is that he went for the wolves and bit off more than he could chew. My bet is that as long as your LGD stays on the place and does not actually pursue the wolves, he will be ok.
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08/20/06, 12:47 AM
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What's the latest, Myheaven? Where's your husband? Could you call your nearest neighbors for help?
What kind of animals is your dog protecting? Is it possible to drive to the field and convince her to get in the vehicle with you so you can bring her home? I cannot remember what LGD stands for.
Stay vigilent and keep your head; from what I can see you have little ones to protect. If in danger, I'd shoot before taking chances. Worry about the rest later.
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08/20/06, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Wind in Her Hair
oh for the love of....
Get a grip!
YOU're the one who moved into THEIR neighborhood -now get over it. Wolves have been here for eons and our ancestors are the recent "trash" in the neighborhood.
We live among a pack of 13 timberwolves (by our Department of Natural Resources count) and we hear them quite often - especially in winter.
These wolves can top 125 pounds and I still go hiking alone in the dead of winter without a concern.
They're not gonna huff and puff and blow your house down.
By nature wolves are very shy and though we see lots of wolf sign - we rarely ever see a wolf.
Your LGD has one job- to protect your livestock. Thats how he got his name and his job - if he can't do that -bring him inside and put bows in his hair.
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08/20/06, 08:26 AM
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I woulnd't panic to hear wolves. I hear them all the time around, and long to enjoy their presence. They just don't eat people. If your dog has been outside around the property marking his areas, that is good signal to wolves that they keep to their own territory for hunt. I go at night on skis way back there and see their tracks. Never have seen a wolf. In 30 years living up here I've only sighted wolves about half a dozen times while fishing. They are shy and won't confront a human unless it's very unusual circumstances. Over history it's rare to hear of wolf attacks on humans, very rare and yet they are vilified way beyond proportion or rationality. If wolves are going to be an honest threat, and you have to kill one, like you said you'll be compensated for livestock losses, but your LGD will certainly be an asset to have around. I'd be cautious and have the ability to use a gun, if that makes you feel safer. Did you contact your natural resources people? If you can do that, I'm sure the talk with them will certainly be beneficial both for you and their jobs.
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I grew up in northern MN with wolf packs all around-
Go outside and yell at them. Wolves don't like being anywhere near people. Have your husband "mark the territory" in a few places on your boundry and/or hang sweaty old clothes in a tree or two. Also leave a yard light on at night so the wolves know they're a house there.
If your livestock is well fed and healthy, the odds of wolves even chasing with intent are pretty low. They won't waste energy on prey they can't catch. They will take newborns or lame/ill animals that can't run. Most "wolf" livestock kills in MN are actually packs of pet dogs.
That said, fear of wolves & their howling is as much an instinct as fear of snakes or deep water. It's a fear that is there for a reason, but maybe a reason that expired several centuries ago. I intellectually know a wolf won't bother me, but the first (and only) one I met in the woods set off a world record snowshoe sprint.
Another thing you might want to do is call up the WI DNR and ask to talk to someone about wolves. If the pack near you is radio collared, you can find out more about the pack's behavior and territory. The more you know about them, the less alarming their howls will be.
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08/20/06, 09:34 AM
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wihh, you took the words right out of my mouth.
it makes me a little crazy when people carry on about wild animals. so many people jump right up and holler SHOOT IT!!!!! 
if people are so afraid, i think they should go back and live in town. now there's a place you should consider going armed.
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Our wolves haven't done a thing other than keep my Great Pyrs barking at night. If it makes you feel any better...we had a grizzly bear here on our property last month. That was COOL! 
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08/20/06, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Wind in Her Hair
Your LGD has one job- to protect your livestock. Thats how he got his name and his job - if he can't do that -bring him inside and put bows in his hair.
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I had a good chuckle imagining Harp and Guinness, our two 150 pound Great Pyrenees with bows in their hair.
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08/20/06, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Wind in Her Hair
oh for the love of....
Get a grip!
YOU're the one who moved into THEIR neighborhood -now get over it. Wolves have been here for eons and our ancestors are the recent "trash" in the neighborhood.
We live among a pack of 13 timberwolves (by our Department of Natural Resources count) and we hear them quite often - especially in winter.
These wolves can top 125 pounds and I still go hiking alone in the dead of winter without a concern.
They're not gonna huff and puff and blow your house down.
By nature wolves are very shy and though we see lots of wolf sign - we rarely ever see a wolf.
Your LGD has one job- to protect your livestock. Thats how he got his name and his job - if he can't do that -bring him inside and put bows in his hair.
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How many head of stock do you have, WIHH? If I didn't have stock I'd be a lot less worried about predators.
Even if wolves don't actually chase stock the smell of them will push some stock through fences, to run, etc... We don't have wolves, well as far as I know we don't, in my area but the smell of bear, and sometimes coyote, will have my horses tearing around the pasture.
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I'd say that if you have wolves, You might want to have more than one LGD. Most folks I know won't keep just one even if its only coyotes they're worried about.
I agree with the folks that advise against killing the wolves. I don't have any issues dispatching possums or racoons, there are a ton of them, but there aren't too many wolves left. Sometimes we need to remember that being people doesn't give us an inherent right to kill anything we want if we're a bit scared of it.
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08/20/06, 10:14 AM
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How many head of stock do you have, WIHH? If I didn't have stock I'd be a lot less worried about predators.
Even if wolves don't actually chase stock the smell of them will push some stock through fences, to run, etc... We don't have wolves, well as far as I know we don't, in my area but the smell of bear, and sometimes coyote, will have my horses tearing around the pasture.
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We just heard howling a little while ago and I went to check the horses. They were on full alert, heads high, watching. I know the Pyrs give the horses a wide berth because Sage the mustang, Tippy the POA and Obie the Clydesdale cross will stomp the snot out of them. They are the defenders of the realm. 
Luckily (really unluckily) we had a HUGE Douglas Fir break in half and take out 30 feet of fenceline so all of our horses are up at the barn. Guess what we'll be working on today? Anyone need some wood?
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I'd love to have the "problem" of wolves around. Maybe they'd thin out the coon and possum population.
I've been up close and personal with wolves and bears, and feared them less than I do hoomans...
And, I would imagine, if you're dog is a barking at the wolves, the wolves won't be a causing any problems... Now if it jumps your fence and heads off after the wolves, it'd probably end up being a snack...
btw... I'll trade you a sack full of coons and possums for a breeding pair of timber wolves...
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08/20/06, 10:20 AM
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We just heard howling a little while ago and I went to check the horses. They were on full alert, heads high, watching. I know the Pyrs give the horses a wide berth because Sage the mustang, Tippy the POA and Obie the Clydesdale cross will stomp the snot out of them. They are the defenders of the realm.
Luckily (really unluckily) we had a HUGE Douglas Fir break in half and take out 30 feet of fenceline so all of our horses are up at the barn. Guess what we'll be working on today? Anyone need some wood? |
Star, the silly old Morab gelding, doesn't like sharing his pasture with furry little things either. I could easily see him stomping a coyote. Bears don't bother him either but the TB's are off to the races when one passes by... There are wolves in the 'Dacks but none have been sighted down my way.
Sucks about the tree, Lisa. My back's been killing me for the last few days, I don't envy you all that work.
Stacy
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