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Old 06/25/06, 03:37 PM
 
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Electric fencing Q's

Two questions...

Is 2000V good enough to ward off predators (coyotes and bears)? That's as hot as I can get mine, as it's electric mesh and grounds out terribly easily. Nothing has come thorugh it yet.... but I have a lot to lose.

I'm setting up a solar fencer and fence within very close range of the other fencer/fence. If I wire them together will I fry the systems or make them stronger?

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Old 06/25/06, 03:51 PM
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I can't answer your question about wiring the two systems together, but I do have experience with electric net fencing on a solar charger -- it might keep a coyote out if it isn't very hungry, I doubt that it would keep a determined bear out, and it probably won't keep stray dogs out if they are large and determined enough to jump over it. I KNOW it won't keep either sheep or goats *in*. Someone here a while back said the electronet fencing works much better with an AC charger, if you can keep your fencing close to where it can be plugged in, or run a feeder line out to it.

We used it for both sheep and goats, and one black lamb quickly learned that if he pushed the bottom ground (not hot) wire up with his nose, he could slide out underneath without getting shocked. Of course everybody else was soon following him. We also had constant problems with animals getting their heads caught in the fence and having to be cut out (which made a royal mess of the fence in short order), and we lost one lamb who got tangled in the fence when we weren't home. It also offers *no* physical barrier to panicked animals. Ours stampeded right through it when they were spooked by fireworks on the Fourth of July.

The only way I would ever use electronet again would be with a plugged-in charger, not a solar powered one. And then I would only use it under close supervision, and within a sturdy boundary fence.

Kathleen
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Old 06/25/06, 04:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Farmer Joe
Two questions...

Is 2000V good enough to ward off predators (coyotes and bears)? That's as hot as I can get mine, as it's electric mesh and grounds out terribly easily. Nothing has come thorugh it yet.... but I have a lot to lose.

I'm setting up a solar fencer and fence within very close range of the other fencer/fence. If I wire them together will I fry the systems or make them stronger?

Thanks!
.................Are you asking can "I" connect two separate electric fence systems together?? Maybe one regular 110volt AC system and a second solar powered system . Answer....NO!!! I'd utilize the 110VAC system in close proxomity to it's power source since the voltage drop will occur and increase the Farther away the wire extends from its power source . The more grounds you use the better .
.................I'd suggest using the solar powered system around that part of your property that is the greatest distance from regular grid power . fordy...
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Old 06/25/06, 04:04 PM
 
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2000 is pretty low....you must have a pakmar or some other 6 volt solar system. i don't feel good about mine keeping in cattle unless its around 4000volts... i have a gallager (spelling) that runs off of 12 volt battery...i built a solar panel from parts from harbor freight. you will pay more per joule for solar but sometimes thats the only source of power.

putting two systems together is not the way to go...use them for spares. invest in a more powerful unit.
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Old 06/25/06, 07:13 PM
 
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Thanks all of you. I'm glad I asked! I think itis a pakmar. Was sold as a good fencer- though I've not been incredibly impressed. I know what hungry bears will do.
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Old 06/25/06, 08:32 PM
 
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FarmerJoe, Don't get me wrong,,,the Pakmar is a good tough quality fencer, but its more for non-critical areas, mild animals. its good for cross fencing, but not so great for border fences. its ok for animals that are already "trained" to an electric fence...for an animal that has to learn what an electric fence is and what it will do ...you gonna need a bunch more joules. afraid its gonna take a bunch more bucks also.
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Old 06/25/06, 11:45 PM
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Definitely need more voltage. It takes 3500+ to keep chickens in electric netting.
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